T1ckL35 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I've sat the Arethusa model to the side for now and want to go back and do some more hull modelling. As the Arethusa plans weren't too clear (to a novice in ship design/layout) I decided to find a ship with more detailed plans - the HMS Southampton (1757). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Southampton_(1757) Plans: http://richardsmodelboats.webs.com/32gunfrigate.htm Looks like it has been done a number of times in 3D but this is more an exercise to learn more about ships of the time and to get my modelling skills back up to an acceptable level. Very early days, laying down the hull so to speak 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Well that promises to be a good model there. Since you are using blender I can give you a nice little advise which worked wonders with my models once I used it myself. If you enable looptools you get a new list of modifiers you can use on your "T" - menu. Select all verticals up to the first wale and use the "space" modifier. Blender will align the verts to a more natural spacing and you will get nice curves in your hulldesign: I also dismissed the method to model along the waterline. that just wont give me nice hull deesigns. Using the Wale as reference for the space modifier howeer works pretty damm good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Great tip bungee! That sounds a godsend in scenarios like this. I'll give it a go later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Started tidying up the lines - luckily I can use the planking plans as a generalised guide to get the flow right. I've also left extra geometry in place where parts need a little more to round it off. I'll tidy up and quad it properly once done. Edited January 12, 2017 by T1ckL35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 To get the bow right you can use this topdown view: http://richardsmodelboats.webs.com/pdf/SOU001 Layout1 (1).pdf Lay it above your model and model accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Yes, Bungee - I was going to go back and round the bow off using the other images but got carried away rechecking the hull and curving the tops Here's after doing that and tidying up the bow/stern and thickening the outer hull so it matches the outer planking edge. I still have the original hull and also an inner one that can be used to make the overall wall thickness right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 Blocked in the keel and rudder and added two decks (not easy to see in the wired view) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 And a little update, blocking in the figurehead area and adding the top decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 Another update - a bit slower going but adding the rear and a bit more detail than previously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 and refining some of the detail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Got a little more time on this so have added a bit more detail and also have added the transom area to the main hull. Might move onto the bow next or look at some detail down the sides Edited January 20, 2017 by T1ckL35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 and just starting on the bow area - blocking in the catheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Got a bit distracted painting up the Arethusa 3d print but back onto this again. Filling out the bow structure a bit at a time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 this might help you a bit here and there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Nice one BungeeLemming I *think* I already have a link to the original forum postings and was actually having a quick check last night whilst doing the bow - the diagram didn't quite make sense to me (still being a beginner with these ships) but one of the bow pictures from 3D renders on the original forum pictures made it a bit clearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Masterviolin Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Inspirational work! The models you've created thus far has inspired me to try taking this up as a hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Nice one _Masterviolin Just concentrate on one bit at a time. Learn the basics of modelling and don't even think about texturing/animation or anything until you've got comfortable with the program you use and simple modelling. I would recommend Blender seeing as it is free and has advanced a huge amount since I last tried it (many years ago). The only thing is the interface is a little hard to come to terms with so you'll find yourself constantly searching for things online to show you. But don't let that put you off - perseverance will pay off in the long run. If I could find my first few models and compare them to later ones then it would show how much and how fast you can progress the more you do it. Edited January 27, 2017 by T1ckL35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Quickly adding in the bowsprit supports (no idea what they are called). The plans look different to the other 3D model that someone made so I've gone with the plans for now - unless someone has some better reference material or knows about what it should actually be like Edited February 2, 2017 by T1ckL35 changing image to smaller jpg to recover some posting space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) and just trying to figure out the railing area Edited February 2, 2017 by T1ckL35 changing image to smaller jpg to recover some posting space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Much appreciated Lieste - a good description and I'm glad you've named all the parts, it should make it easier to find more reference material from them too Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Adding some gratings/planking in and tidied up the edges around the front rail Edited February 2, 2017 by T1ckL35 changing image to smaller jpg to recover some posting space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 T1ckl35 your bowrail end should not be seen. The rail is merging into the galeon. When you use the curve modifier make sure you tilt them accordingly. (ctrl + t) http://www.piratesahoy.net/threads/the-hms-southampton.16490/ scroll through that thread and get all the reference you can possibly get. http://s810.photobucket.com/user/Chapmanfan/media/Southampton/2-2.jpg.html there is the bowsection in particular. And also all kinds of views. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Sorry bungee, I meant I'd tidied up the bit with the decorative posts sticking up (it is kind of a rail in the plans). I haven't finished the front of all the thin bow rails yet as I keep getting distracted with new bits (goldfish syndrome) Thanks for posting those links - I'd used the main picture from the first but didn't see the bow wires image so will use that for reference too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Ah, looking back and rereading I get what you mean now bungee. I'll have a look at that bit again. Edited January 29, 2017 by T1ckL35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1ckL35 Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Added the vertical curved supports to the rails. Will revisit the front one after looking at some reference material as I couldn't quite make out the shape on the inner edge Edited February 2, 2017 by T1ckL35 changing image to smaller jpg to recover some posting space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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