Sella Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Göta Lejon Swedish 3rd Rate 70-76 guns 1746 Göta Lejon was built in Karskrona in 1746.She was rebuilt in 1769-1770 and served until 1816 when she was broken up. Model from Swedish Museum: Dimensions: Lenght of Gundeck: 164' Swedish Aln Breadth: 44' Swedish Aln Depth in Hold: 20' 6'' Swedish Aln Displacement: 2050-2100 ton Card from the museum: Armament(1746): Lower Gun Deck: 28 x Swedish 24-PounderUpper Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 18-PounderQuarterdeck/Forecastle: 22 x Swedish 6-Pounder Armament(1770): Lower Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 24-PounderUpper Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 18-PounderQuarterdeck/Forecastle: 22 x Swedish 6-Pounder From Illustrerad Svensk sjökrigshistoria: delen. Omfattande tiden intill 1680 by Gunnar Unge: https://books.google.gr/books?id=RchAAAAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA305&lpg=RA1-PA305&dq=G%C3%B6ta+Lejon+1746&source=bl&ots=cqUK57WfQh&sig=HCvcixW-EML7fwOSAgOWj15TiQY&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjypcXmza_PAhXGXBQKHRCxBqYQ6AEIYDAM#v=onepage&q=G%C3%B6ta%20Lejon&f=false Sources:http://digitaltmuseum.se/021025898367#&gid=1&pid=11 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10890 http://felipe.mbnet.fi/html/body_gota_lejon_1746.html http://felipe.mbnet.fi/Sweden/Sweden_Ships_1700-1860/sweden_ships_1700-1860.html https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ta_Lejon_(1746) Every help is welcome! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Fishy Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 She has a very interesting bow, almost like a ship has been built on top of another ship, she is a nice find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 She has a very interesting bow, almost like a ship has been built on top of another ship, she is a nice find Notice the two guns. Very interesting angle. I wonder if they could fire directly forward As a sidenote, if this ship doesnt make it into the game, her painting scheme would really fit the Bellona or the 3rd Rate as a skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Wow she is beautiful. Reminds me Agamemnon, but with more decorations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Fishy Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I would be very surprised if the guns couldn't be positioned to fire forwards, they arent too disimilar to most the gun deck chasers we see where there is a bizarrely angled ports, it looks like there are 2 ports directly under the deck chasers too, id imagine they could be arranged to take the front most gun on the bow, giving her a total of 6 possible chasers should the set up need it, a set up not too different to the one I was reading about for Fama recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Oh god, that beakhead... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomms123 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I know where the plans are but they're not digitalized, so here is the link to it https://sok.riksarkivet.se/nad?Sokord=Gilbert+Sheldon&EndastDigitaliserat=true&BegransaPaTitelEllerNamn=false&lk=Ladda+kategorier&AvanceradSok=False&typAvLista=Standard&page=13&postid=Arkis+c440cfab-70ee-4661-aac6-4898b58988c0&tab=post&s=TARKIS08_Balder For the whole list of ships which is in the archives here it's https://sok.riksarkivet.se/nad?Sokord=Gilbert+Sheldon&EndastDigitaliserat=true&BegransaPaTitelEllerNamn=false&lk=Ladda+kategorier&AvanceradSok=False&typAvLista=Standard&page=13&postid=Arkis+71971C9A-E6B2-46F6-ABA6-CC9217C9A153&tab=post#tab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Oh wow i love those colors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sveno Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Really love this ship, a real beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdguards Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Quite the looker, and that lifespan! nearly 70 years before she was broken up, wonder if she saw alot of action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Masterviolin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 She looks like a narrower, luffer version of the Bellona with a wicked paint upgrade! The black goes well with the blue and gold trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Just received some extra info from the Swedish Maritime Museum. Supposedely the Göta Lejon was built 14 years later after the 66-gunner Enigheten using the same plans. The constructor for both was the famous Charles Sheldon. I've sent an email to the War Archives to see if there is a way of getting a copy the plans. Awaiting an answer Some info about Enigheten: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigheten_(1732) http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10887 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 The gentleman from the museum was kind enough to send me a card with info which i've added to the OP. I also have the plans in my possesion but i will not post them here for obvious reasons. If the devs are interested in modelling the ship i can send them via PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackham the Red Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Oh this beaty! Now im crying out of my soul and heart as always to the devs to add this in game and whit this color scheme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomms123 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 The gentleman from the museum was kind enough to send me a card with info which i've added to the OP. I also have the plans in my possesion but i will not post them here for obvious reasons. If the devs are interested in modelling the ship i can send them via PM What obvious reason D: ? Teasing like this is not nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 What obvious reason D: ? copyright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomms123 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) copyright If the plans has been given by the state archive there is no copyright..... Also if they had copyright on them he wouldnt be allowed to send them further to them either. Edit: If you dont trust me here is the terms of use: https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/ https://www.riksarkivet.se/psidata If its ordered thru marinmuseum then here is the thingy about that : http://www.marinmuseum.se/samlingarna/prislista(swedish) Edited October 2, 2016 by Tomms123 stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 I asked and received them from the archives. I just wasn't sure if I was allowed to post them even after a short read through the terms of service. If it is ok then I will post them as soon as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomms123 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I asked and received them from the archives. I just wasn't sure if I was allowed to post them even after a short read through the terms of service. If it is ok then I will post them as soon as possible The terms of service stated is those which shall be followed unless stated otherwise in your conversation with them. If nothing has been stated about it then these are the terms to be followed : https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 Imgur seems to be messing up the quality so here you go. No plans for the decorations unfortunately. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1f006tmsye11huk/24.1a.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uhtnyax2qg1wg1f/24.1b.pdf?dl=0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 191171 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Thank you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sveno Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 *bump* for a ship i really would love to see and i also think it is fitting nicely into the current lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 A third rate with 24's and 18's? This ship will have a rough time facing bigger opponents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 A third rate with 24's and 18's? This ship will have a rough time facing bigger opponents... Doesn't NA 3rd-Rate have that very armament ? I haven't checked it apart from : http://navalaction.wikia.com/wiki/3rd_rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Doesn't NA 3rd-Rate have that very armament ? I haven't checked it apart from : http://navalaction.wikia.com/wiki/3rd_rate Correct. I think we all know how underwhelming her firepower is, the Bellona is inherently better just due to her heavier armament. btw, this is the new wiki: http://www.navalactionwiki.com/index.php?title=Ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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