I ganked the British and all I got was this lousy T-shirt

[Skully]

TL;DR Hard work and skill needs to be rewarded.

 

Hearing reports of a British 6th rate fleet near Baxo Nuevo, I quickly readied my Suprise and set sail to intercept.

With The Lone Wolf scouting out their movements I had no trouble lining myself up for the gank.

 

 

There I was happily fighting along side some British flies.

 

 

I almost had them, when I was forced into a surrender.

 

 

Then gasp, only 16076 gold and 189 XP for such a good gank, fight and general entertainment?

Not to mention the other party not getting too much, because hey, I surrendered. What would you do?

 

 

And the details.

 

But there are many more details:

Hull       x286
Sails       x15
Shock        x1
Leak        x40
Cannon       x2
Crew        x21

Casualties x103

So rather than having a simple reward for damage, I would like to go to a more elaborate model.

 

For example (and I'm just making up numbers here):

Hull        $10
Sails        $5
Shock     $1000
Leak       $500
Cannon      $25
Crew        $10
Casualties  $10

Then added to that we do an entertainment modifier, which is basically:

damage received / damage sent

This to prevent damage farming and such. Plus it rewards good gankees.

(On traders you do little damage to get the goods, so that should balance out as well.)

 

It would boil down to a reward of $40,395 as opposed to the current $16,076. Not too much, just good enough to ensure people go into good PvP fights.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VIzDMmnXiq59XBjVmlIvntCm2RTcoypymowm4Qh7S4A/edit#gid=1106635557

 

Note that the whole kill/surrender is no longer part of it. If someone wants to scuttle and go for the whaleboats, so be it.

 

It might even be a dynamic money faucet or tied to diplomatic agreements. The most important is rewarding players for providing content.

 

For reference here is the log from my end:

[2016-Jul-10 08:08:02.962508] Log: [7/10/2016 6:08:02 AM] [RABBIT] Received BattleResults

winTeam: Right
players: "Skully"
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  wins: 0
  losses: 1
  draws: 0
  kills: 0
  deaths: 0
  shots: 491
  honorKills: 0
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  PVE_assists: 0
  PVE_honorKills: 0
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  hitsSent: 358
  hitsReceived: 1061
  damageSent: 9456.741
  damageReceived: 15144
  captures: 0
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  PVP_damageReceived: 0
  PVP_crewKilled: 32.4431458
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  PVE_damageReceived: 15144
  PVE_crewKilled: 0
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  PVP_friendlyFireDamageReceived: 0
  PVE_friendlyFireDamageSent: 0
  PVP_friendlyFireDamageSent: 0
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  boardingWins: 0
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    captures: 0
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Edited July 14, 2016 by Skully

[Skully]

Completely forgot to mention: the battle screen must show all rewards given to each player (plus total per team).

 

This to show that doing unbalanced ganks just results in a harder grind.

[Tief N Tote]

i wish the battle screen gave a better break down of how the xp and monies were calculated per person.

[Cpt Blackthorne]

And..like we've all asked for before, that it gets stored in a player's generic in-game blog....please.

[Tief N Tote]

And..like we've all asked for before, that it gets stored in a player's generic in-game blog....please.

agreed i don't care for leader boards and bragging rights it's really just curiosity on how i did or am doing

[The_Scipio]

Maybe introducing your own scoreboard like Armored Warfare have.

 

Then you can see your own results, PVP / PVE, you can chose to have them private or public of your chosing. But then you would have other objective, than just farming gold / XP to keep the interest in the game e.g. improving own stats - have your own private competition, and something to share if you chose.

It might keep people playing the game instead of abandoning it after they have reached highest level.

 

Also PVP as a ganker where you outnumber the enemy, should give only very little XP / reward, whereas PVP 1vs.1 should be rewarded a lot more regardless of you lose or win.

Maybe such an approach would give more  / better PVP fights?