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This is the Farquharson Regular ship of the Honorable East India Company, the largest merchant ship in the world during the period in which naval action is set. 1400 tons armed with 56 18lb cannon and had a recorded top speed of 12.5 knots
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So my idear to get some usless time and usless battles (Tradership vs Warship) out of the game: Give players the option to let there stuff traveled by AI for some realis. Interceptable to make economic warfare possible again. Exchange all AI traders to those so u know when something is traveled: Someone needs and miss the stuff later... That also take new players into PVP send them to go for those traders. Those Players which want to make shure there stuff is ariving need to travel them by themself and escort them. That avoids booring fights where you can actualy just run away (Trader vs Warship) and you dont care about what happend in the battle just shoot some sails to make it more easy for ur Revenge fleet. The chaser will anyway get you if you dont board him. Prices around 1 Realis each whight each 10Km Something that around. And no delivery missions that way. Just recaurces Books and those stuff. Dont make it to expensiv Pro: No more boring time for all. Ecomomy boost Option for Players which dont have the time to travel materials to get good ships. Exchange of Stupid loot from AI traders for maybee realy usfull stuff. Economy Warfare when all Ai traders are exchanged that way realy an option. I mean if you hunt down all traders which go to a nation craftingport... they will heave a leak on Recaurces soon. Encurage Coast guard actions: It could be your trader or the trader of a clnamate. Contra: Players which just go for traders becaurse of easy wins and PVP marks will have less fun. Result: More real fights, more time we can spend on RVR/PVP. Ecomomic Warfare should not pay of with comatmedals i mean is it a real fight? be hornest. P.S.: those guys which scream no should think about why they scream no.
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Le Vengeur French indiaman/3rd Rate 64 guns 1756 The Vengeur was a 64-gun ship of the line of the French Navy designed by Antoine Groignard. She saw action with Bailli de Suffren during the American War of Independence. Model: Plans: This plan is probably from: https://www.amazon.fr/Vaisseaux-fr%C3%A9gates-Choiseul-Sartine-Marine/dp/B000XA74IS Stern decorations by Philippe Caffieri. Full plan available in the French archives No 277:http://www.servicehistorique.sga.defense.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/MV_PLANS-BATIMENTS-A-VOILES.compressed.pdf Drawing from the book: Ship Decoration 1630-1780 by Andy Peters https://books.google.gr/books?id=RoyuCAAAQBAJ&pg=PT179&lpg=PT179&dq=le+vengeur+caffieri&source=bl&ots=7v9gaG2bo7&sig=-rIdCxNkqNN9gal_0QJD8p4F_X0&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiK_tbgqOHOAhUBtBQKHfvXB7UQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Characteristics: Length: 48 m (157 ft) Beam: 12.34 m (40.5 ft) Draught: 5.2 m (17 ft) Complement: 396 men Displacement: 1300 tonnes Armament: Lower battery: 24 x 24-pounder long guns Upper battery: 28 x 12-pounder long guns Quarterdeck: 6 x 6-pounder long guns Forecaste: 2 x 6-pounder long guns Sources*: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Vengeur_(1765)#cite_note-FCDIVengeur-2 http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/913933/FCDI%20Vengeur http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2373 http://5500.forumactif.org/t540p400-discussion-generale-sur-l-artesien http://www.leradoubduponant.com/t965p225-le-radoub-du-ponant-origine-des-voiles-royales *The sources are conflicting in dimensions and armament. Need confirmation. Histoire des vaisseaux le Vengeur et la Belle-Poule: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6359176k.r=Histoire%20des%20vaisseaux%20le%20Vengeur%20et%20la%20Belle-Poule?rk=21459;2
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I have submitted an F11, but want to check if anyone has noticed this as well to confirm that I'm not going crazy. It appears that despite the most recent patch notes we received (which are the release notes despite numerous changes in the last 3 weeks) Where it mentions that: However, I now notice that my Indiaman (which I'm pretty sure was close to having 4 slots unlocked a few days ago) has now been locked to 3 knowledge slots - with no progress upon hover to unlock the 4th. Is this intended?
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The French East India Company (1664-1794) Between 1720 and 1770, the Company gained a great prosperity and built more than 300 ships, a third of them being two-deck ships from 600 to 1500 ton. Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_East_India_Company La Paix, 1764 : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66472.html Le Boullongne 600-ton French fluyt, 1759 20 guns (6-pdrs) Source : http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/boullon/bou_2.htm Built in Lorient by G. Cambry on behalf of the French East India Company. Design (especially the interior) is a bit different from ships built by and for the French Royal Navy, such as Le Gros Ventre, to serve as a freight transport ship. Named after Jean de Boullongne, French magistrate and politician. Captured by the British in 1762. Length (gundeck) : 126' Breadth : 30' Depth in hold : 11'8" Monograph and plans : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/63-monographie-du-boullongne-v-cie-des-indes-1759.html?search_query=boullongne&results=2 Shipmodels : http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/boullon/bou_index.htm http://www.amarsenal.be/05_MM_19_SDB01.htm http://enguerrand.gourong.free.fr/oceanindien/p19oceanindien.htm Source : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=16503 -
Le Bertin/Belleisle French Indiaman/British 3rd Rate 28(?)/64 guns 1760 (Probably the plan of the original): (Probably after the British refit): (i wonder from which book is the picture above ) http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81234.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81235.html Specifications: Length of Gundeck: 157' 10" French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 51.2643 meters Length of Keel: 139' 10" French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 45.4179 meters Breadth: 40' 6" French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 13.1544 meters Depth in Hold:17' 9" French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 5.7652 meters Armament: French service: Upper Gun Deck: 28 x French 12-Pounder British service(1761): Lower Gun Deck: 26 x British 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck: 28 x British 18-Pounder Quarterdeck: 8 x British 9-Pounder Forecastle: 2 x British 6-Pounder (1782): Lower Gun Deck: 24 x British 68-Pound Carronade Upper Gun Deck: 26 x British 42-Pounder Carronade Quarterdeck/Forecastle: 8 x British 24-Pound Carronade Crew: French service: 199, 10 officers, 189 crew, "when armed en-flute" British service(1761): 500 (1782): 420 blaze it Info from British Warships in the Age of Sail 1793-1817 : https://books.google.gr/books?id=Ge8kCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT179&lpg=PT179&dq=le+bertin+1760&source=bl&ots=fKlhPyKca0&sig=AZHLdugXsJUk3Amh5knBx2C927k&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiszbvYu_LLAhWCDCwKHRiXBgcQ6AEINjAE#v=onepage&q=le%20bertin%201760&f=false Le Bertin: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=15839 Belleisle: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=617 Any info,plans or pictures are welcome
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Can we bring this into the modern NA era ? Maybe as a alternative to the Trader Cutter and Trade Lynx ? Rum Runner !
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Another huge source : http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/16620-traders-by-fredrik-henrik-af-chapman-with-plans/ Post any armed or unarmed merchant ship plans that can be used to transport goods. Another Tiny Trader Boat
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I don't know if it is a bug or is intentional. I buy an item that shows it will sell for a profit at another port, obviously, I use the trader tool for this. So I sail to the port and a few times the item I want to sell is selling for 1 gold, instead of the price showing in the trader tool, even though I have reached the port and the tool should update, the tool still shows the profit price, while the shop is buying for 1 gold. Is this a bug that will be fixed or is it intentional?
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Voici un outil pratique pour les joueurs qui aime faire du commerce Les dev de naval action nous permettent de créer des API. On a donc mis les mains dans le cambouis. Pour les joueurs de EVE Online il s'agit ni plus ni moins du EVE Trader mais pensé pour Naval Action. Comme pour un parser de log NavScan vas lire votre fichier de log et lorsque vous rentrerez pour faire du commerce dans un port il renseignera les tarifs du shop dans une DB. Une fois la MAJ faite vous pourrez consulter les prix des différents ports MAJ par les joueurs. Les tarifs restent 24H max pour éviter de polluer avec des prix qui n'existent plus. Plus nous serons nombreux à l'utiliser, plus les infos seront à jour. Télécharger l'outil : NavScan disponible ici Decompresser dans un dossier vous obtiendrez 4 fichiers: AutoUpdate.exe (permet la maj du locigiel automatiquement ne jamais lancer navscan par se fichier) libmysql.dll (permet la connexion a la base de donnée) Navscan.exe (permet de lancer NavScan) Parametre.ini (permet d'enregistrer la position de la fenêtre Navscan) un petit kikimeter vous permet de voir vos dégât pendant les combats ainsi que celui des joueurs de la bataille qui on lancer navscan( encore en dev) NavScan est encore en dev donc s'il y a des bug contactez nous avec un screen et les explications de comment reproduire le bug si possible. On espère que NavScan vous servira beaucoup et garder en tête que plus de monde s'en sert plus les ports sont à jour. Bon jeu à tous NavScan.7z
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HMS Glatton 56-gun ship built for the East India Company , it was purchased by the Royal Navy in 1795 and converted into a warship. His artillery was composed only of " carronades " - heavy pieces short barrel for close combat and requiring much less gunners to serve them. The " carronades " inflicted terrible damage by sweeping the deck of opposing ship . The French suffered cruelly this English innovation before adopting a few years later. In 1801 HMS Glatton was commanded by Captain Bligh (future commander of the Bounty ) who distinguished himself in the eyes of Nelson.
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Dimensions (imperial) length 144' 3' breadth 38' 1' draught aft 17' 9'' height of middle gunport above the waterline: 8' 5'' Length-to-breadth-ratio: 3.78 Armament 26 danish 18-pounders 16 danish 8-pounders Crew 389 Launched 1778, transferred to Asiatic Company in 1781, broken up 1795 (five voyages to India) Ships in class: Pommern (1784)
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'Wapen von Hamburg' (III) German 3rd Rate Konvoiship
Tarierishin posted a topic in Ships of the line
German convoy ship 1722 "Wapen von Hamburg" The wapen from Hamburg (III) from 1722 was a Hamburg ship convoy. It was commissioned by the Hamburg Admiralty and the Hamburg merchants in order and had to accompany the task convoys of Hamburg's overseas trading partners and to protect them from enemy attacks or raids by corsairs and pirates. When the convoy ships thus it was with permanent warships escort mission, the 1669-1747 sheltered in Hamburg's convoy shipping and ensured trade to and from Hamburg and thus a place in Hamburg's position as a trading center sustainable. corrected her name bungee
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Close-haul regional bonus
Captain Babylon posted a question in Feature proposals and Gameplay Help Q&A
I've been thinking of setting up shop where I can build ships with the regional close-haul bonus. Seems like that would be a good bonus on a trader brig. Then I came into possession of a t brig that had the bonus already on it. It sails at the same 12 kts as any other t brig when I sail slightly upwind, mostly upwind or very nearly into the wind. Looks like this buff is a waste of time, even for trader ships. Am I missing something? -
I am looking for more info on these Ships. 1. fregat de 'Mary en Hillegonda' 2. driemastschip Johanna Cornelia (Armed Trader?)
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HMS Halifax (formerly the Nova Soctia Packet) HMS Halifax began life as the Nova Scotia Packet, built by a group of Halifax-based merchants to establish a regular maritime mail and passenger service between Halifax, Nova Scotia, and Boston, Massachusetts. In July 1768 she was commissioned by Admiral Hood to carry dispatches to England. Hood also recommended that the vessel be purchased into service with the Royal Navy, the vessel duly being taken onto strength and refitted in Portsmouth. After its return to North America in January of 1769, Halifax captured the schooner Liberty and had an active service-life until being wrecked in 1775 on Foster Island, off of Maine. Later records include mention of a Halifax on the same lines as the original vessel, so the ship may have been salvaged and returned to service. A two-masted schooner, the Halifax/Nova Scotia Packet is a small vessel, with a deck length of 58 ft 3 in and a beam of 18 ft 3 in. At this size she is smaller than the Cutter, and would make a suitable replacement for the Trader's Cutter, possibly also the Trader's Lynx*, as an entry level trading vessel. As HMS Halifax the vessel carried 6x3-pdr cannon, 3 mounted upon each side, however I cannot find mention of whether the Nova Scotia Packet carried cannon or not. As the smallest cannon available to us in-game is a 4-pdr cannon, it could carry those as its armament as opposed to the 3-pdr, unless in future we'll get the 3-pdr. Regarding cargo capacity, the Halifax had a tonnage capability (burthen) of 83bm. As everything regarding cargo space is boosted, this could be increased to match the tonnage of the Trader's Cutter/Lynx. *It would probably be best to keep one small, fast, vessel suitable for smuggling work. Obligatory pictures of models:
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From M/S Museet for Søfart (Maritime Museum of Elsinore): "Fregat og Vestindienfarer FREDERICHSDAHL. Bygget: 1780-82 i Flensborg. 129½ kommercelæst. Reder: Etatsråd P. v. Hemmert & Sønner, København. I 1799 solgt til Norge." Trader Frigate, Friderichsdahl (a.k.a. Frederichsdahl / Frederiksdal et.al.) built for the West Indies 1780-82 in Flensborg (modern day Germany). 129½ kommercelæst (Danish tonnage). Shipowner: P. v. Hemmert & Sønner, Copenhagen. Sold for Norway in 1799. From the Danish National Archives: Ship plans (click on them for higher resolution): Model: Model in the scale 1:48 built by A. Nissen, Varde, Denmark, and given to the Maritime Museum in Elsinore by Venneselskabet and Otto Mønsteds Fond. My own pictures from the museum (unfortunately it was hard to get proper pictures with the lack of light due to the exhibition being closed): http://imgur.com/a/RkGWq EDIT: Took some better pictures when the lights were on in the museum: http://imgur.com/a/J1YI2 More information: http://www.jmarcussen.dk/maritim/skibsliste/side.php?id=10181- 7 replies
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'Falmouth' The Falmouth was commenced by Mr. Perry to Blackwall Yard (England) on the 22nd of August 1750 and launched on 14th August 1752 as show on page 27 of "Chronicles of Blackwall Yard" by Henry Green and Robert Wigram . It was the first trading vessel of the English Indiaman Companies and showed a close resemblance to a warship in sail plan and rigging, with the most up-to-date reef-points to her topsails The ship was equipped with a large amount of artillery, unusual for the trading vessels of that period. In that she was run along the lines of naval discipline was due to the fact that the vessel could sail alone without any convoy ship, since its rich load was a good bounty for all the enemy vessels and pirate ships. The Falmouth could easily combat a war-ship of the same tonnage, thanks to its crew of 180 experienced men including the best trained gunners. The superiority of the crew was partly due to the incentive granted to each gunman allowing each individual to transport his own 5 tonnage of goods there and 2 tonnage back. These goods were usually sold as smuggled goods to the black market. The Falmouth was of 499 tons and was in service until 1764 completing five voyages for the East India Company under the Captain George Hepburn. She was lost on her sixth voyage, wrecked at Sogar Bank in 1766. Plans
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Armament possible 18-20 guns.
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'Charles Grant' Many of the East Indiaman that traded between London and the East were built in Indian dockyards. The 'Charles Grant', for example, was built at Bombay in 1810. Ships built in India were constructed using superior tropical hard-woods such as teak. They were more resistant than vessels built from English oak to the sea-worms which ate through the bottoms of many ships. Wherever they were built, each East Indiaman had a limited life expectancy - 4 voyages to Asia over 8 to 10 years. Between 1600 and 1833 the East India Company's ships made about 4600 voyages from London.
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Prins Willem The Prins Willem (or Prins Willim) was the largest ship at the time of the Dutch East India Company. The ship Prins Willim was built in 1649 in Middelburg in the Netherlands and sank near Madagaskar in 1662. Curiously, the name on the ship was Prins Willim. Two possible reasons have been advanced: the ship's name is Middle Dutch lack of space for the name caused the "e" to be changed to a shorter "i" The ship was the flagship of Witte de With in the Battle of the Kentish Knock during the First Anglo-Dutch War. Plans: Build Thread: http://www.modelbrouwers.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23313
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Ahoy captains an shipwrights, I am looking for a vessel of the size of either our current trader snow or trader cutter. It should represent either of those in size and rigging. And it has to be a trade vessel. Build for cargo space. I am looking for a ship to model. Which means I need good plans and if possible also good reference data. Ship models or drawings work good to have a look at details or deck stuff. I know chapman has a lot of vessels but tbh. I am not sold on his smaller trade vessels. proof me otherwise if you like to
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1. To encourage international trade (and avoid nations being eliminated due to loss of resources) I suggest that traders be allowed to change flags (and displayed names?) when travelling such that international trade can take place with traders able to visit any port where they fly the same flag. 1a. Perhaps some limitation on contracts placed (max value or weight?) in a foreign port could be introduced for 'alternate flag' traders. 1b. To make trading hazardous perhaps the papers of the vessel may be checked by certain classes of war vessel (privateer or warships carrying marines but they have to get close in open world to do so?) and both the flag and displayed name returned to actual name and nation (for a time or until reset at a freetown visit) and thus available for attack. 1c. I am not suggesting a name and flag change for warships (although it might be worth considering for Pirates if there is a change in their nation game mechanics). 1d. This may eliminate the need for freetowns at all, which are perhaps an unnecessary anomaly. 2.To stop Freetown sneeky pop-in pop-out exploit mugging I suggest that all freetowns should only be available as outposts for trading vessels and that warship are not on sale at freetowns. 2a. that trading vessels with cannons not be allowed to initiate an attack. Buster Bloodvessel Sucks on pipe (budgie on stem) -
The ship was built in 1760 like a 58 guns ship of line,equipped with 24 x 24lbs, 26 x 18lbs and 8 x 8lbs. The ship was reduced to a merchant vessel, the lower gun deck was removed to get more space to cargo, in the end, the "new" vessel only kept the stern ports, and was equipped 34 gun ports, with 26 x ¿18lbs? in the upper gun deck ( I don´t know yet if the vessel kept the original weapons) and 8 x 8lbs in the quarterdeck/ forecastle link to the drawing: https://pinake.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/017b_-plano-sistema-a-la-inglesa.jpg Some photos of the wooden model in the Naval museum of Madrid https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/modelo-de-nav%C3%ADo-la-flora-de-58-ca%C3%B1ones-rebajado-para-transporte-depertrecho-c-1760/JAHTv83ax8oIeg?hl=en- 7 replies
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