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  1. Name: Arslan Başlı Launched: 1717 Designation: 4th/5th rated lineship Guns Carried: 44+ Discovered this gem online while doing some browsing, best I could dig up after a while. I'm quite sure she'll never see the light of day due to the current timeline of ships being offered up for the devs to put ingame, but she's a nice looking vessel regardless:
  2. This is the ship i want the most because its proper cool french ship and she could be a flagship for ships And i have to say a french looking ship could be nice, because i want to be a frenchman and then i want somthing that can match english ships.
  3. Hello, I would like to ask the devs to consider a one off ship to be added to the game as a tribute to a ship lost at sea more than 264 years ago, and discovered in 2008 by the Odyssey Explorer. I would like to see her in game as a tribute to those lost at sea while serving on one of the greatest ships in the British navy. As a game based on the era of the Age of sail I think adding her would bring joy to many players. Here are the plans I could find so far: Her Stern: Her Bow: Please consider her for the game, as she will make a great addition to the fleet. I leave it also to the player base to make their decision also.
  4. Crew: 1102 Weapons: 30 cañones de a 36 lbs 32 de a 24 lbs 32 de a 12 lbs 18 de a 8 lbs Drawings Wooden
  5. Nau Principe da Beira Portuguese 44(?) or 54(?) guns 1774 Need info on her. About the guns,sources say that she mounted 44 guns but i counted at least 52. Not to be mistaked with the Princesa da Beira: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7891 Sources: http://triganices.blogspot.gr/2012/01/nau-princepe-da-beira.html http://marinhadeguerraportuguesa.blogspot.gr/2013_10_01_archive.html http://museu.marinha.pt/pt/exposicoes/exposicaopermanente/SeculoXVIII/Paginas/default.aspx http://3decks.pbworks.com/f/Catalogo+dos+navios+brigantinos+%281640-1910%29+-+Esparteiro.pdf
  6. Looks like French 3rd rate from 1777.
  7. Beautiful ship! Please let add it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_ship_De_Zeven_Provinci%C3%ABn_(1665) Replica under construction The first 80 guns in the world!
  8. 'Ocean' Océan was a 118-gun first-rate three-decker ship of the line of the French Navy, lead ship of her class. She was funded by a don des vaisseaux donation from the Estates of Bourgogne. She was ordered as États de Bourgogne and was launched at Brest in 1790. Like many French ships of the line during the Revolutionary period, she was renamed several times, becoming Côte d'Or in January 1793, Montagne in October 1793, Peuple on 17 May 1795, and a matter of weeks later again renamed, to Océan. She served until 1855. As the largest ship of the line in the Brest fleet, the ship spent much of her early career as the fleet flagship. As Montagne, the ship was the flagship of Rear-Admiral Villaret-Joyeuse in the Combat de Prairial (known in English literature as the Glorious First of June) in 1794. She was badly damaged by the HMS Royal Sovereign, losing 313 men and receiving 233 round shots in her hull. On 17 May 1795, she was renamed Peuple; a month later, on the 23 of June she fought in the Battle of Groix as Villaret's flagship. Returning to Lorient three days later, she was (officially, since 30 of May the name Océan was used) renamed to Océan. She was refitted in Brest in 1797. In 1801, she once again served as Villaret's flagship, ferrying troops of Leclerc's expedition to Saint-Domingue. Océan was Allemand's flagship at the Battle of the Basque Roads. She was decommissioned on 2 August 1850, and used as a floating artillery battery from May 1851. Ship plans and pictures are welcome! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Original dev post: We have given the right to pick the wild card to our 3d modelers. They have chosen Ocean Class - 118 gun ship of the line. http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2994-player-selected-ships-2015-final-poll/?p=80626
  9. Could someone help me look for plans for this Téméraire-class ship of the line and since this was such an iconic french vessel and i gladly would lik to see this ship in the game and ill post this image.
  10. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monta%C3%B1%C3%A9s-class_ship_of_the_line The Montañés were a class of four ships of the line designed and built between 1792 and 1798 by Julián Martín de Retamosa for the Spanish Navy The four ships in the class, and their fates, were: Montañés (1794) - ran aground in 1810. Monarca (1794) - captured by Britain at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 and later lost in the storm. Argonauta (1798) - captured by Britain at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 and later sunk in the storm. Neptuno (1795) - lost in the storm after the Battle of Trafalgar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Neptuno_(1795) Neptuno was an 80-gun Montañes-class ship of the line of the Spanish Navy. She was built in 1795 and took part in the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. She fought with the Franco-Spanish fleet in the battle of Trafalgar, and was wrecked in its aftermath. Neptuno was built at Ferrol and launched in 1795. She entered service in time to support an attempt to unite with a French force and land troops in England, but the Spanish fleet under Admiral José de Córdoba y Ramos was intercepted and engaged by a British fleet under Sir John Jervis. Neptuno did not take part in the battle, having been sent into port beforehand. Several years later she was in a Spanish port when the combined Franco-Spanish fleet under Vice-Admiral Pierre-Charles Villeneuve arrived, having sailed to the West Indies and back, and been engaged by a British fleet in the Battle of Cape Finisterre. Neptuno joined the fleet in her attempt to reach Brest, but the plan to join with another French fleet failed and Neptuno ended up with the rest of the fleet, blockaded in Cadiz by a British fleet under Lord Nelson. Villeneuve came out of Cadiz in late 1805, and was engaged by Nelson in the decisive Battle of Trafalgar on 21 October. As the lead ship of the line, Neptuno was initially isolated from the main fighting, though she joined in an attempt later in the day to come to the aid of Villeneuve's flagship. Instead she became trapped and engaged by two British ships and, after fighting for over an hour, surrendered. She was taken in hand by a British prize crew, but two days after the battle a sortie by some of the survivors from the battle succeeded in retaking her. She was towed towards a friendly port but, already badly damaged in the battle, was caught up in the powerful storm that struck the area and ran aground. Her crew were evacuated, and Neptuno broke up in the heavy seas. Construction and commissioning Neptuno was built at the Royal Dockyard at Ferrol as one of the Montañes-class of 74- and 80-gun ships of the line, a design developed by Romero Landa and based on his earlier San Ildefonso class of 1785. Among her sisters were the Argonauta and Monarca, both of which fought alongside Neptuno at Trafalgar. She carried twenty-eight 24-pounder guns on her lower gundeck, thirty 18-pounders on her upper deck, fourteen 8-pounders on her quarter deck and four 8-pounders on her forecastle. By 1805 she had been fitted with four 18 pounder carronades on her poop, while the 18 pounders on her upper deck had been replaced by 24 pounders. Overall work on the ships of the Montañes class was overseen by Julién de Retamosa, and Neptuno was launched at Ferrol in 1795. There then followed a period of fitting out and carrying out sea trials during 1796, after which she was assigned to the Spanish Mediterranean fleet at Cartagena under Admiral José de Córdoba y Ramos. Shortly afterwards Spain allied with Republican France and entered the French Revolutionary Wars against Britain and her allies. The Spanish Navy was assigned to support the planned invasion of Britain. Alliance with France Neptuno put to sea on 1 February 1797 with the rest of Córdoba's fleet, consisting of 27 ships of the line, twelve frigates, one brig and several smaller craft. They sailed from Cartagena and passed through the Strait of Gibraltar on 5 February. Córdoba had orders to deliver a number of gunboats to Algeciras to support the bombardment of Gibraltar, safely escort a convoy of four urcas carrying mercury from Malaga to Cadiz, and then sail to Brest to link up with the French. The first part of the operation went smoothly, andNeptuno was detached with the 74-gun ships Bahama and Terrible, the 34-gun Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe to take the gunboats into Algeciras. Neptuno and Bahamaremained at Algeciras, while Terrible sailed to rejoin Córdoba. Strong easterly winds prevented Córdoba from making port at Cadiz, and his ships were scattered to the west, before they could make sail back to the Spanish coast. As they approached Cadiz on 14 February his fleet was tracked down off Cape St Vincent by a British force under Sir John Jervis. Neptuno and her consorts took no part in the action that followed, during which the Spanish were defeated. Approach to Trafalgar Portrait of Cayetano Valdés y Flores, commander of Neptuno at Trafalgar, painted by José Roldán y Martínez, Sevilla, 1847 By 1805 Neptuno was based at Ferrol, under the command of Captain Don Cayetano Valdés y Flores. There she was joined in late July by ships of the combined Franco-Spanish fleet under Vice-Admiral Pierre-Charles Villeneuve. The combined fleet had recently arrived in European waters from the West Indies, where they had evaded a British fleet under Lord Nelson, but had failed to carry out any attacks on the British colonies in the Caribbean. The fleet, hotly pursued across the Atlantic by Nelson, had been intercepted by another fleet underRobert Calder that had been positioned off Cape Finisterre in expectation of their arrival. Calder captured two of Villeneuve's ships in a confused action, after which Villeneuve withdrew to Ferrol and Corunna. He sailed again on 9 August, taking the Spanish ships he had found in those ports, including Neptuno, with him, hoping to rendezvous with the French Rochefort squadron under Zacharie Allemand.The hoped-for rendezvous failed: the two French fleets supposedly mistook each other for the main British fleet and, instead of joining, attempted to escape from each other, with Villeneuve fleeing to Cádiz. After spending several months there, watched by the blockading British fleet under Nelson, Villeneuve decided to put to sea in mid-October. Valdés prepared Neptuno for sea, and the fleet sailed from Cadiz on 19 October. Neptuno was initially the rearmost ship of the combined fleet as it sailed southwards, but as the British approached on the morning of 21 October, Villeneuve formed the line of battle and ordered it to come about heading northwards, with Neptuno now the lead ship of the van. She was ahead of the 74-gun French Scipion, and formed part of the squadron under Rear-Admiral Pierre Dumanoir le Pelley, which had previously been intended as the rear of the fleet. Trafalgar Initially isolated by the British strike at the centre and rear of the combined fleet's line, Neptuno was ordered to hug the wind to allow the other ships to get to their stations. Neptuno was fired upon by the 64-gun HMS Africa, which had arrived late to the battle and sailed southwards parallel down the line, exchanging broadsides with the ships of the fleet. Africa's long range fire caused little damage. At 2 pm Dumanoir brought the van around and headed south to support the beleaguered centre, trying to fight his way through to Villeneuve's flagship, the 80-gun Bucentaure. With Dumanoir in the attempt were Neptuno and four French ships, the 80-gun Formidable, and the 74-gun ships Scipion, Duguay-Trouin and the Mont-Blanc. Neptuno fought her way through to Bucentaure, with Valdés hoping to use her boats to recapture the flagship. The plan came to nothing when he discovered the boats had been destroyed by gunfire. Neptuno herself was soon in trouble; at 4 pm she was cut off by the two rear-most ships of Nelson's weather column, the newly arrived 74-gun ships HMS Minotaur and HMS Spartiate. Neptuno fought both of them for the next hour, having her mizzen mast shot away, and her rigging badly damaged. Valdés, who had already been wounded twice during the battle, was hit in the head and neck by falling debris from the collapsing mizzenmast and lost consciousness. He was taken below to be treated, and command devolved to his second, Joaquín Somoza. After an hour of fighting Neptuno lost her fore topmast, the foretop, foreyard and foreshrouds, followed by her main topmast and the main stay. Valdés' successor, Somoza, was also wounded, and First Lieutenant Antonio Miranda took command. Neptuno struck her colours at 5.10 pm, becoming the last of the combined fleet to surrender. Accounts of her casualties vary but they appear to have been relatively light, with 38 to 42 dead and 42 to 47 wounded. She had by now been isolated from the rest of the fleet, and may have surrendered due to declining morale as a result. The British had been aiming high, in order to disable Neptuno and prevent her from escaping. A boarding party of 48 men from Minotaur, led by Marine Second Lieutenant Thomas Reeves arrived on board to take Neptuno's surrender. Valdés was undergoing treatment in thecockpit, so First Lieutenant Antonio Miranda went aboard Minotaur and submitted his sword to her captain, Charles Mansfield. Reeves took of a lieutenant and twenty-five men out of Neptuno and sent them to Minotaur, secured the prisoners aboard Neptuno, locked away the firearms, and placed a guard on the magazine. Storm, and wreck Minotaur took Neptuno in tow at 3.30 am the next day, and at daylight work began to clear away the wreckage of battle. As the storm rose, the towline snapped, putting Neptunoin danger of running onto a lee shore and being wrecked. The battered mainmast collapsed on 22 October, smashing through the captain's cabins below the poop, crushing to death Spanish paymaster Diego de Soto as he slept, and killing one of the British prize crew. Now completely dismasted the crew struggled to shore up the decks to prevent them from collapsing, and tried to jury rig sails. On 23 October French Captain Julien Cosmao made a sortie from Cadiz with some of the more seaworthy ships that had escaped the battle, in an attempt to retake some of the captured prizes. Cosmao's squadron consisted of two French 80-gun ships, Neptune and Indomptable, the 74-gun French Pluton, and two Spanish ships, the 100-gun Rayo and the 74-gun San Francisco de Asis. Also with the ships of the line were the smaller French ships that had been present at the battle but had not taken part, the frigates Cornélie,Thémis, Hortense, Rhin and Hermione, and the brigs Furet and Argus. In preparation for the counter-attack the British cast off several of the prizes and formed a defensive line. While Cornélie, Hortense, Thémis and Rhin harassed the British, Hermione took Neptuno in tow, while the Spanish crew rose up and took back their ship. The British prize crew were sent below to work the pumps, while Neptuno made anchor in Cadiz Bay. During the night the storm rose again, and Neptuno dragged her anchors and ran onshore. Lines were quickly passed between the ship and shore, and rafts were constructed to take men off the stricken ship. One raft made several trips to and from the shore, until it capsized, drowning several men.Over the next few days the remaining men, including the wounded Captain Valdés, were taken off by rafts and fishing boats. The abandonedNeptuno was soon pounded to pieces in the heavy seas, with the loss of around 20 men in her wreck. Neptuno was not the only ship to suffer this fate, a number of the captured British prizes were scuttled or left to be wrecked, while several of the ships that had accompanied Cosmao's sortie were lost. The Indomptable was lost after she grounded off Rota, as was the San Francisco de Asis, in Cadiz Bay. The Rayo attempted to anchor off San Lucar and ride out the storm, but rolled out her masts in the heavy seas. HMS Donegal came up, and being unable to resist, Rayo surrendered to her, but was driven on shore on 26 October and wrecked. Cosmao managed to retake only one other prize aside fromNeptuno, the 112-gun Santa Ana. Unlike Neptuno, the Santa Ana made it back to Cadiz. The remains of the French fleet were bottled up in Cadiz under Rear-Admiral Rosily, trapped there by the British blockade. The remaining ships were seized by the Spanish after they entered the war against France in 1808. One of the French ships taken was the 80-gun Neptune, which had fought at Trafalgar; the Spanish took her into their service, renaming her Neptuno, as a replacement for the ship lost in 1805. This new Neptuno served with the Spanish Navy until being broken up in 1820. http://www.todoababor.es/maquetas/mont.html Model construction , made following original plans by Romero Landa and Julian de Retamosa. When not there have been, have been replaced with Authorized and authenticated planes. For some details have been used elements Ildefonsinos series. The model is part of a technical study, as much as possible complete, the Montañes ship of the line, including: Obtaining Hydrostatic Curves, Curves Pantocarenas, Stability, Dynamic Parameters, Behavior between waves Efforts (Loads, Chopping, Tyres). The counting system is based on the ideas of Jorge Juan, all those aspects where possible. Only when there are empty " historical " they are using modern methods.
  11. Is this ship real? History: The HMS Dauntless was one of the strongest ships in the British Royal Navy serving under King George II, most notably under the command of Commodore James Norrington. As one of the Empire's premiere warships and renowned pride of the Royal Navy, this ship was agile, fast, and carried 100 guns. Blueprint: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs15/i/2007/110/0/4/HMS_Dauntless_Draft_by_CdreJohnPaulJones.jpg Pictures: Later became HMS Endeavour Source: http://hollywoodmoviecostumesandprops.blogspot.com/2012/11/hms-endeavour-filming-model-from.html Who wants this ship in a game?
  12. This is the Farquharson Regular ship of the Honorable East India Company, the largest merchant ship in the world during the period in which naval action is set. 1400 tons armed with 56 18lb cannon and had a recorded top speed of 12.5 knots
  13. I was going to suggest opening the game to a bit of workshop magic, aka letting some of the modder/technically savee players help build out some of the different ships from history. Soleil Royal, Sovereign of the Seas, Dutch, Italian and Portuguese ships all come to mind as nice, pretty ships that would add depth to the game. Obviously these would have to get flushed out by the development team but how it sails and how the moving parts work together could be built by the community to help streamline the introduction of more ships to the franchise.
  14. The Admiraal de Ruyter was a Dutch 80-gun ship-of-the-line, part of the Wreker Class (translation: Avenger). 7 ships would be build according to Pieter Glavimans' design which was approved by the admiralty in 1795. Supervising the build of the first two vessels, the class' leadship "Wreker" left the dockyard in 1798. Including "Chatham" and "Admiral Zoutman" the first order of the wreker class' vessels was finished in 1800. Impressed by the ships' overall performance another batch of four new vessels were approved by the admiralty. In 1806 "Admiraal de Ruyter" left the dockyard. -Wreker 1798 (Amsterdam) -Chatham 1799 (Rotterdam) -Admiraal Zoutman 1800 (Amsterdam) -Admiraal de Ruyter 1806 (Rotterdam) -De Leeuw 1806 (Amsterdam) -Admiraal de Ruyter 1808 (Amsterdam) -Admiraal Evertsen 1808 (Amsterdam) The measurement of the class (amsterdamse voet): 195 ft x 51 ft x 22 ft In meters: 55.2 x 14.4 x 6.2 Hereby the plans of the Ruyter: Originally the Class was destined to carry 80-gun (pounds are in dutch): Lower gun deck: 36-pounders Upper gun deck: 30-pounders FC&QD: 12-pounders Yet on the plan you can clearly see a flush top deck. For reference, underneath is a ship plan included of how the original 80-gun version looked like (Wreker's plan): The new 90-gun version had an improved armament. Besides the 12-pounder cannons, a series of 36-pounder carronades would be added along the gangways. Excluding the added Carronades the ships' broadside weight was a respectable 1156 british pound (converted from dutch pd). Adding 9 Carronades the broadside weight is boosted by 352 (brit) pound resulting in a total of 1509 brit pound To illustrate the ship a bit more: Sidegallery +stern for both Admiraal de Ruyter as well as Admiraal Evertsen. The stern for the Admiraal de Ruyter, after being renamed to Rotterdam. The bow for Admiraal de Ruyter herself: Over her lifespan she would be renamed several times. Admiraal de Ruyter whilst build Admiraal Piet Hein from launch in 1806 Rotterdam from 1806 (late) Koninklijke Hollander from 1808 (Royal) Hollandais from 1810 (french service) Koninklijke Hollander from 1814 (return to dutch service The reason why she changed names whilst being build is quite interesting. When arriving in the Netherlands, Louis Napoleon visited one of the 1808 ships in construction. In honor of the dutch nation's greatest admiral, he christened the ship Admiraal de Ruyter. Unknown to him at the time, there was already a ship being build who carried the same name, hence why she was immediately (and temporarily) renamed Admiraal Piet Hein. An interesting characteristic of the ship class is that they all utilized a lateen yard instead of a spanker. A incredible model has been made of the Chatham pre-refit. Additional models of the Chatham: Initially it was hard to get a accurate grip on the internals of the ship, regardless of the above shown models. Luckily the Wreker actually has a full set on internals available. To top it off, there is a remarkable drawing of the Admiraal Zoutman in existence, truly gorgeous. Great for paintscheme reference. Another ship designed and build by Pieter Glavimans at the same time which was turned into a model is the 1798 Neptunus(74), which is also great for paintscheme reference.
  15. Le Vengeur French indiaman/3rd Rate 64 guns 1756 The Vengeur was a 64-gun ship of the line of the French Navy designed by Antoine Groignard. She saw action with Bailli de Suffren during the American War of Independence. Model: Plans: This plan is probably from: https://www.amazon.fr/Vaisseaux-fr%C3%A9gates-Choiseul-Sartine-Marine/dp/B000XA74IS Stern decorations by Philippe Caffieri. Full plan available in the French archives No 277:http://www.servicehistorique.sga.defense.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/MV_PLANS-BATIMENTS-A-VOILES.compressed.pdf Drawing from the book: Ship Decoration 1630-1780 by Andy Peters https://books.google.gr/books?id=RoyuCAAAQBAJ&pg=PT179&lpg=PT179&dq=le+vengeur+caffieri&source=bl&ots=7v9gaG2bo7&sig=-rIdCxNkqNN9gal_0QJD8p4F_X0&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiK_tbgqOHOAhUBtBQKHfvXB7UQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Characteristics: Length: 48 m (157 ft) Beam: 12.34 m (40.5 ft) Draught: 5.2 m (17 ft) Complement: 396 men Displacement: 1300 tonnes Armament: Lower battery: 24 x 24-pounder long guns Upper battery: 28 x 12-pounder long guns Quarterdeck: 6 x 6-pounder long guns Forecaste: 2 x 6-pounder long guns Sources*: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Vengeur_(1765)#cite_note-FCDIVengeur-2 http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/913933/FCDI%20Vengeur http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2373 http://5500.forumactif.org/t540p400-discussion-generale-sur-l-artesien http://www.leradoubduponant.com/t965p225-le-radoub-du-ponant-origine-des-voiles-royales *The sources are conflicting in dimensions and armament. Need confirmation. Histoire des vaisseaux le Vengeur et la Belle-Poule: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6359176k.r=Histoire%20des%20vaisseaux%20le%20Vengeur%20et%20la%20Belle-Poule?rk=21459;2
  16. Introducing HMS Soveriegn of the Seas a 102-gun first-rate ship of the line. One of the most famous ships in British naval history. Ordered in August 1634 on the personal initiative of King Charles I of England, who desired a giant Great Ship to be built and launched in 1637. As the second three-decked first-rate (the first three-decker being Prince Royal of 1610), she was the predecessor of Nelson's Victory. She had 118 gun ports and 102 guns was 230ft long and weighed 1,500 Tons. She was the most extravagantly decorated warship in the Royal Navy, completely adorned from stern to bow with gilded carvings against a black background.
  17. Time to start another ship, this time the HMS Barfleur (1768), a 90 gun second rate (later 98) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Barfleur_(1768) Took a while to create some clean plans from the ones I found (the best was distorted and the others were very low quality). Just blocking in the shape at the minute using the original plans (2 tier stern gallery) but will modify this to have the actual 3 tier stern gallery that it was built with
  18. One of the most beautiful ships of her time IMHO, the 74 gun HMS Orion (centre) of the Canada class of 3rd rates would be a real treat to have ingame:
  19. History Fama was the flagship of the last great Admiral of the Venetian Republic Angelo Emo, who captained the ship during his continuous missions hunting down Barbary pirate including the siege of Tunis in 1785. Angelo Praised Fama for her considerable speed and agility naming the ship as comfortably the best Venice had. The plans for Fama were drawn up in 1782 and 6 ships were laid, of which 5 were completed she was constructed in the Venetian Arsenal by Giovanni Domenico Giacomazzi, who was considered the best venetian shipwright in of his time and built accordingly the "ad ordinata doppia" system which was implement in 1780 by Angelo Emo who after studying the construction techniques used by the English and the French, hoped to match them or even surpass them. Fama herself spent most of her career in active service, either stationed off of Corfu with the main detachment of the Venetian navy, ready to face threats from threats to the mouth of the Adriatic by the Ottomans or other hostile nations or spent hunting Pirates over the Mediterranean or Barbary Coast. Fama was captured alongside the rest of the Venetian fleet by Napoleon in 1797 when she was briefly renamed Renomee and then renamed again to Du Blois a month later. After her capture she was sailed to Tulon where she was rearmed with slightly smaller guns to fit French standards to take part in Napoleon's Egyptian expedition where she unfortunately collided with the French flagship "L'Orient", suffering severe damage. Despite her damage she remained to Alexandria and was used as headquarters by General Kleber was later partially sunk to block the entrance into Alexandria, she was then captured by the British and sadly broken up without the French, nor British ever realising her potential as a swift and powerful shock ship or as a strong commerce escort and pirate hunter. The Fama Class were given heavy armaments to match larger capital ships but maintaining the speed, versatility and agility of a frigate, thus the name Fregata Grossa came about, translating to Large Frigate, The ideas behind the Fregata Grossa rated ships were to hit hard and fast, able to set combat to their own advantage the theory was a cross between their contemporary super frigates and modern battlecruisers. They also contain similar thoughts used in the huge super frigates of the later 19th century but obviously without the steam engines to power them. The 6 Ships of the Fama Class were: Fama (1784) Gloria Veneta (1794) Le Stengel (1797) Le Beyrand (1797) Diamante (1797) Unnamed (uncompleted) Fama and Gloria Veneta both served under the Venetian Republic with considerable distinction. The other ships of the class were completed during the French and Austrian Occupation periods. Le Stengal and Beyrand both served briefly in the Napoleonic fleet and were then transferred to Austria as part of the peace deal. Diamante was badly damaged during the French Looting period and was patched up but sailed poorly, to deal with this she was armed from head to toe with 24lb guns and used as a floating battery, later she was repaired and served in the Austrian navy as a troop transport ship. A further Unnamed ship of the class was laid but damaged beyond salvation and was sadly broken up with parts being used to outfit other ships but mostly used as firewood. Fama well represents the Venetian Naval doctrine of the time, Venice continuing to fight with a hybrid fleet of Galeass, Galleys and Frigates, due to the history and nature of what remained of the Venetian Empire. Her outfitting, speed and manoeuvrability made her a great shock ship with a strong punch, able to hunt down pirates and operate well in shallow waters and archipelagos with complex coastlines. She is also incredibly well suited for the calm waters of the Mediterranean and able to produce good speed no matter the wind conditions. She was praised for her sailworthiness by her captains and considered the jewel in the late Venetian Fleet. Details Fama was considered a Secondo Rango Fregata Grossa within the Venetian Fleet, then after she was captured by the French she was reclassified as a 3rd rate, although if she were in the game she would likely be similarly placed as Agamemnon, among the 4th rates. Her measurements are (peidi are the Venetian feet): Total Length: 138 piedi or 48.00 meters Keel: 122 piedi or 42.42 meters Width: 37 piedi or 12.86 meters Draft: 17.5 piedi or 6.08 meters (when under French service: 16 fore, 18ft aft (5.2-5.85m)) Bilge Tip (height between the keel and deck): 28 piedi or 9.73m She was crewed by around 450-500 men, depending on how many sailors Venice could muster at the time. The Venetian state had a continuous issue with raising the appropriate number of men to serve on her navies during the later years of the republic. Fama had similar crew numbers to her contemporary 64s by other navies, however due to her smaller size these men served in even more cramp conditions than was generally experienced by the worlds navies, her officers quarters were equally as confined, especially considering that she was used for most of her career as an admiral's flagship, although these close natured lodgings were something the Venetians were always used to back at home in Venice. She sailed incredibly well and was praised for being hugely fast and agile, giving her the best ability to perform her main tasks, protecting merchant shipping and hunting down pirates. Her performance under sail is fairly well documented, receiving universal commendation from the officers who sailed her. I have not yet found any information about how she heeled, rolled and other similar specifics, as Venice had no sailing queries similar to the Royal Navy. Armaments Fama Carried 66 Guns, and her four chasers, below is a make up of weight and armaments during both the French and Venetian outfitting. She also had the potential to point the two cannons nearest the bow on the main gun deck in a forwards direction to aid the 2 dedicated chase guns situated either side of the foremast and 2 rear facing guns. During Venetian period by Venetian Weight 26 x 40lb (26.5 British pounds) (12.04 kg) 26 x 30lb (20 British pounds) (9.03 kg) 14 x 14lb (9 British pounds) (4.21 kg) 2x 14lb (9 British lb) Bow Chasers (4.21 kg) 2x 14lb (9 British lb) Stern Chasers (4.21 kg) Broadside Weight = 1008 Venetian Pounds (667.5 British Pounds) (303.4 kg) French Period By French Weight (reduced to a 64) 26 x 24lb (11.74 kg) 26 x 18lb (8.8 kg) 12 x 6lb (2.93 kg) 2 x 6lb Bow Chasers (2.93 kg) 2 x 6lb Stern Chasers (2.93 kg) Broadside Weight = 588 French Pound (634.75 British Pounds) (287.5kg) Plans The most true plans, showing the proper lines of of either La Fama or Gloria Veneta, as said below in a post stating the edit history of this thread. This is the only record showing the proper 66 broadside gun ports, although the plan below does miss her bow chasers. The other plans like with her sister ship Stengel show the correct lines, but sadly show incorrect positioning for the guns on the quarterdeck, the other plans show only 6 guns either side (12 in total) from when she was reduced to a 64 rather than the true build when she had 7 (14), which are shown correctly here. This is a modern reproduction by Guido Ercole, there are a couple of minor mistakes where she is shown having 28 guns, not her proper 26 on both her gun decks, she is also missing a gun on her weather deck. The rest of the reproduction is still accurate, with the sail plan and also shows a nice idea of what she would have looked like painted. Some less detailed plans, most likely showing Stengel, after she has one of her weather deck gun ports removed making her into a 64. Rough Planking and Framing Methods used Art Many Thanks go to Sella22 for letting me use some of his resources, I would really love to see this ship in the game, she would be a fantastic addition. Thank you for Reading.
  20. I finally was able to find plans for my favorite ship. Enjoy! HMS Mordaunt 1681 HMS Mordaunt was a 46-gun fourth rate ship of the line of the English Royal Navy, launched at Deptford in 1681. She had been privately built, and was purchased into the navy in 1683. She has been the only ship of the Navy to be named Mordaunt, after the surname of numerous holders of the title of the Earl of Peterborough. She was commanded from 4 September 1688 by John Tyrell, and on 4 October 1689 she was part of a fleet that fought an engagement with 12 French warships. Mordaunt became stranded in 1693, and was lost. Ship Plans in tif format available on request
  21. Sviatoi Georgii Pobedonosets 21019 Nominal Guns 66 Nationality Russia Operator Baltic Sea Keel Laid Down 1778/07/09 Launched 1780/09/16 How acquired Purpose built Shipyard Kronshtadt Ship Class Aziia Class Constructor A. S. Katsanov Category Third Rate Ship Type Ship of the Line Broken Up 1808 Dimensions Dimension Measurement Type Metric Equivalent RWAS Length of Gundeck 160' 0" Imperial Feet Breadth 44' 6" Imperial Feet Depth in Hold 19' 0" Imperial Feet Armament 1780/09/16 Broadside Weight = 469.5 Russian Artillery Pound (564.285 lbs 255.8292 kg) RWAS Lower Gun Deck 24 Russian 24-Pounder Lower Gun Deck 2 Russian 1-Pood Edinorog (1767) Upper Gun Deck 2 Russian 1/2-Pood Edinorog Upper Gun Deck 22 Russian 12-Pounder Quarterdeck/Forecastle 16 Russian 6-Pounder I have pictures intended for modelling but am unable to upload due to file size so am not sure what to do about that.
  22. 'Eendracht' Need more info. Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mu8zflm6rvzgh46/Unknown1.jpg?dl=0
  23. Work in Progress. The Battle of the Chesapeake, also known as the Battle of the Virginia Capes or simply the Battle of the Capes, was a crucial naval battle in the American War of Independence that took place near the mouth of Chesapeake Bay on 5 September 1781, between a British fleet led by Rear Admiral Sir Thomas Graves and a French fleet led by Rear Admiral Francois Joseph Paul, the Comte de Grasse. Although tactically indecisive, the battle was strategically decisive, since it prevented the Royal Navy from reinforcing or evacuating the forces of Lieutenant General Lord Cornwallis at Yorktown, Virginia. When the French were able to achieve control of the sea lanes against the British, the result was the reinforcement of the Franco-American army with siege artillery and French reinforcements—all of which proved decisive in the Siege of Yorktown, effectively securing independence for the Thirteen Colonies. Presented in July 1781 with the options of attacking British forces in either New York or Virginia, Admiral de Grasse opted for the latter, arriving at the Chesapeake at the end of August. Upon learning that de Grasse had sailed from the West Indies for North America, and that French Admiral de Barras had also sailed from Newport, Rhode Island, Admiral Graves concluded that they were going to join forces at the Chesapeake. Sailing south from New York with 19 ships of the line, Graves arrived at the mouth of the Chesapeake early on 5 September to see de Grasse's fleet at anchor in the bay. De Grasse hastily prepared most of his fleet, 24 ships of the line, for battle and sailed out to meet Graves. In a two-hour engagement that took place after hours of maneuvering, the lines of the two fleets did not completely meet, with only the forward and center sections of the lines fully engaging. The battle was consequently fairly evenly matched, although the British suffered more casualties and ship damage. The battle broke off when the sun set. British tactics in the battle have been a subject of contemporary and historical debate ever since. For several days the two fleets sailed within view of each other, with de Grasse preferring to lure the British away from the bay, where Barras was expected to arrive carrying vital siege equipment. On 13 September de Grasse broke away from the British and returned to the Chesapeake, where Barras had arrived. Graves returned to New York to organize a larger relief effort; this did not sail until 19 October, two days after Cornwallis surrendered. Updating Links British Fleet in Formation: Alfred (1778) Belliqueux (1780) Invincible (1765) Barfleur (1768) Monarch (1765) Centaur America (1777) Bedford (1775) Resolution (1770) London (1766) Royal Oak (1769) Montague (1779) Europe (1765) Terrible (1762) Ajax (1767) Princessa (1780) Alcide (1779) Intrepid (1770) Shrewsbury (1758) French Fleet in Formation: (Help Me Find Blueprints) Pluton Marseillois Bourgogne (1766) Diadème Réfléchi Auguste Saint-Esprit Caton Centre César Destin Ville de Paris Victoire Sceptre Northumberland (1780) Palmier Solitaire Citoyen Rear Scipion Magnanime Hercule Languedoc Zélé Hector Souverain
  24. Le Soleil Royal (1670) Displacement: 1,630 tonnes Length: 61 m (200 ft) Beam: 15.64 m (51.3 ft) Draught: 7.64 m (25.1 ft) Complement: 836 Armament: 104 guns:
  25. 'La Bretagne' The Bretagne was a large 110-gun three-decker French ship of the line, built at Brest, which became famous as the flagship of the Brest Fleet during the American War of Independence. She was funded by a don des vaisseaux grant by the Estates of Brittany. Bretagne was one of seventeen ships of the line ordered in 1762 as a result of the Duc de Choiseul’s campaign to raise funds for the navy from the cities and provinces of France. She was completed at Brest in 1766. Specs: La Bretagne 1765-1796 By A. Grignard Built In Breast Launched in 1766 184' - 50' - 24'6'' 30-gun of 36-pdr; 32-gun of 24-pdr; 32-gun of 12-pdr; 6-gun of 6-pdr Total 116-gun In 1777, La Bretagne undergoes a major remake of 2/3. Artillery is given a 110-gun. Other name, le Révolutionnaire in 1793 This ship could be a great addition to NA 1st rate team.
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