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  1. Pirate Mechanics

    With the recent removal of the outlaw battles, I can see why developers decided to remove it. I can’t blame them. However I have a suggestion. The best part of being a pirate is the freedom to do whatever you want. I liked the ability to have rival pirate gangs and the ability to keep pirates away from a place you are hunting at by killing them in an outlaw battle, such as marking your territory and keeping the hunting ground under your control. Why not bring clan vs clan battles under pirates? Where it can be only 1 clan vs another clan outside the pirates reinforcement zone. Say I am a pirate and I wanted to hunt and establish my pirate raiding zone in the french territory and I operate out of aves and I discover in combat news that there is another pirate hunting in the waters taking my potential targets from me, then the hunt is on. The hunter becomes the hunted and I could rally up my clan to fight this other clan raiding in the area we claimed as ours. Would make things interesting and would allow tests on clan wars like what was brought up before. Just a suggestion, give it some thought, let’s hear everyone’s opinions 😀
  2. The Pirate Nation?

    (page intentionally left blank) Please discuss politely (as if we ever do differently ).
  3. Let me begin by saying this post is not a reaction to what's been going on on pvp global. Within my clan, and within the game, we've been thinking about what the role of pirates should be for some time, both to make the game more interesting for everyone and also to make being a pirate more interesting as an option. Lets get the screams of no from the current pirates out of the way first: Pirates should not be able to capture ports. Pirates should not be able to build anything above a pirate frigate and it should be insanely difficult for them to own/run anything above a 3rd rate. In fact I'm not even sure if they should be able to own anything above a 3rd rate. Why? Because pirates never rocked up in Victory's - they never had the resources to build/maintain such ships, that required a national effort. So what should pirates get to make up for these restriction? They should be able to make ports in places where other people can't, maybe in 6-10 locations around the map. They can build an outpost and move their ships for free once a week via TP. That would allow them to suddenly appear in an area and cause trouble. The nation force in that area would have to deal with it. If they did, the pirates could melt away again. They should be able to raid ports, allowing them to raid all the resources they can carry - up to a maximum of 50% of the resources of each player in the port (They see just the totals of each resource and then it gets removed from players resources on a percentage basis). Each port can be hit once a week. That would force nations/clans to look after their hubs. They should be able to be hired by nations to do thier dirty work - temporarliy sailing under the flag of that nation whilst fulfilling missions for them. They get to fight outlaw battles with each other. I think this would make pirates an interesting option and something different instead of how they are now, which is a nation with additional benefits. Currently everyone should play pirates in order to have a level playing field. All other nations are at a disadvantage.
  4. After being in battle against a national (both in pirate frigates) I thought how pirate mechanics are supposed to offer a different gameplay - but a pirate only ship (pirate frig), through game mechanics can be sold for gold or w/e, which means the chance (certainty) that a national will be purchasing one. I suggest : When you are pirate - the armaments on your ship changes to the upgraded fit when you dock, unless it is already pirate statistics. Such as the pirate frigate vs the frigate. Same ship - different cannon fit, sail/speed bonus or whatever (the bonus/statistic change is not really relevant to the suggestion, no flamewar plz) An example of how it works: -capture a ship from a national/AI -dock at a port -captured ship then updates to its pirate statistics This can also work the opposite way if you are a national capturing a pirate: -capture a pirate ship from a pirate -dock at port -captured ship reverts to its civilian/navy statistics This would allow you to temporarily use a pirate fitted ship until you next dock, after which it reverts back. This way the nationals wouldn't be able to sail our ships whenever they want, because they would have to be a pirate to get access to the alternate fitting for the ship, or capture a pirate ship off a player and use it until you next dock. The ships would look exactly the same, but have better class, more crew, or whatever the bonus is for the ship based on how pirates used the ship differently, or w/e. No flame :^)
  5. Fixing the Pirate "nation"

    I have a few suggestions for fixing the pirate nations. First off, a little bit about me, the most recent wipe will have been the 3Rd wipe I've been through. My first outing as a player was on the pve server getting my sea legs. Soon after I transferred over to global to start sinking players! I'm not by any stretch an expert at pvp and I rarely participate in rvr as I find it rather boring so take the following observations and suggestions for what they're worth. 1. The Pirates as a "national power" is simply absurd. How this managed to make its way in to a game rooted in so much realism is simply beyond me. This should not and can not be. As it stands, smaller nations act more as pirates (or privateers if you rather) than the Pirates do themselves. They should be based around open world pvp with the occasional sack of a town here and there. - Suggestions: - Pirates should be a faction based solely around pvp where only the most veteran players find success and Profit, thus pirates should receive higher rewards for capturing and or sinking ships. Furthermore pirates should also receive a significantly higher sell price for ships back to the port. To offset this, pirate pve missions should remain open and visible for the duration of the mission, as any ship being attacked would certainly be signaling frantically for help while being attacked. Player engagement timers are fine the way they are. Other national factions should receive a slight buff in income of pve missions, and a significant buff in income from sinking pirate players as they are a scourge on the open seas. (maybe also receive a slight buff to income for sinking war targets if the alliance system were to come back, which I think it should, pirates would not be able to participate in diplomacy) 2. Pirates should neither be able to capture nor lose ports. - Suggestions: pirates should not be holding regional capitals, that's absurd. Instead the Pirates should have a total of 4-6 ports spread across the map from which to base out of, free towns would be a good idea, they would also be the only faction able to teleport between free towns so they may move around and plunder different areas with impunity. Raising hostility would do 2 things. First stolen or contraband good would be produced only in ports that the Pirates have raised hostility in. The goods would be extremely cheap and have very high sell prices in other portions of the map which does 2 things, brings more traders to the are where the hostility is raised and offer more gentle players in the pirate nation a valuable trade good to generate cash. The amount of these goods available should reflect the amount of hostility in the region. Another interesting thing would be to raise pvp rewards for killing pirates where the hostility is above a certain percentage. The weight of said goods should reflect the value. Should the Pirates set a port battle, the port battle should be a "raid". If the Pirates succeed in the raid, they should hold the port for 3 days after which it reverts back to its original nationality prior to the raid. After the port reverts, the port can not gain hostility for a week and the hostility will drop x amount per day back to 0 before the 7 days has elapsed. During the occupation, pirates receive a 25% discount on all resources in the port both npc and player contract items. This could extend to ships on sale as well. Pirates also would have free repairs and crew replacement in the port during the occupation. 3. Pirates in lineships -Suggestions: pirates should be limited to the construction of a level 2 shipyard. With a discount on the amount resources for crafting 5th and 6th rates. I would say that pirates should have no access to lineships at all but I feel that would take out a lot of fun for the faction, perhaps pirates sailing a sol would suffer speed, reload, and maneuverability penalties. National powers should receive a discount on the crafting of 1St, 2ND, and 3Rd rates. These discounts would also vary a slight amount based on the amount of regions held by the nation. 4. Victory marks Suggestions: since pirates would have no way of obtaining victory marks, I think a variant of the conquest mark system should be implemented. Once a region reaches 100% hostility, pirates should get an injection of x amount of combat marks instantly, however only players that get a certain percent of the hostility will receive them. Also, if the port battle is won they should receive x amount of additional combat marks each day the port is in their possession which would again apply to only the players present at the pb. This would hopefully encourage the Pirates to open up multiple fronts against multiple nations. These are a few of my suggestions and ideas. Let me know what you think.
  6. Bueno, esto es en la puerta de la habana; deberíamos hacer algo al respecto, a ver si se quedasen sin barcos y dejasen de dar por culo.
  7. Dear Devs, we know that Pirates love to abuse their uniqe abilitys. Sadly I have to report the new following abuse. We spottet only minutes ago 2 pirates with ships in fleet. The pirates were: 1x Privateer with 1x Indefatigable and 1x Traders Brig ins fleet 1x Basic Cutter with 1x Mercury and 1x Traders Brig in fleet The moment we got near them and had them in the middle of our fleet (3 surp 1 indef) they attacked each other to generate a outlaw battle. As soon as the battle startet, they sailed as close as possible to the wind and just sailed next to each other. Thanks to the unfinished ourlaw battle mechanic their fleet ships were safe cause they were not in the battle. You can also read the chat, that they told us that they fire against each other but are just bad shooters.... So they know they were abusing the system and thus made fun over it. This belongs punished. Please take away their ships which they used (and the fleet) as well as the money they earned by that travel away from those players. And change this system! As you can see the players are named: Roger Churchill and Chief Blue. Best Regards, Twig
  8. Clan Solo is for those within the Pirate faction on PVP Global who choose the solo player experience. It is not a clan in any traditional sense, it is merely a means by which to identify yourself as a dedicated solo player. We solo players value, above all else, our freedom and independence to do whatever we want, whenever we want, with no one to answer to except ourselves. We accept total responsibility for our actions and set our own course through the many challenges facing those who choose to go it entirely alone in this rather hardcore game. We collaborate, or not, with other solo players and other clans on an as-available, as-interested basis. We ask nothing of others and promise nothing in return. If you would like to wear the [SOLO] tag to signify your commitment to the solo player experience, PM me on PVP Global and I'll be happy to add you.
  9. Idea for NEW Nation Mechanic

    IDEA FOR NEW NATION MECHANIC This system would address the following issues: 1. Would provide a good starting point for new players to run missions, explore the map and trade where there would be less PVP ganking, as only pirates would be a threat. Would then have option of entering the PB RvR world later if they wished through 'privateer-naturalisation route'. 2. Ends the utterly daft and unrealistic situation of Pirates as a nation sailing in fleets of SOL's and threatening the Ports of large powers. (Which imo is currently ruining the entire Pirate experience atm). Pirates would now have to behave like Pirates and would be heavily outgunned at National Hubs having to make use of 'Hit and Run 'tactics . Being a Pirate would be HARD (The big pirate clans need to just just go and join a nation like everyone else if they want to RVR/PB/sail 1st Rates) 3. Would make Free Ports (and Safe Ports*) far more interesting hubs of trade and commerce 4. Would create some interesting dynamics with regard to the use of 'Privateers' in RvR skirmish and hostility raising 5. Would make 'Pirates' a real threat but (probably) less numerous and spread more evenly across the map 6. Would allow players to explore different aspects of the game and would provide more 'fluidity' in nation Balance of power 7. Would rid need for 'forged papers' and players would now never be in a 'dead end' with regard to their playing careers 8. Allows players the option of a Merchant/Trading Profession without national constraints 9. Would also open the possibility of 'WANTED' Bounty Hunting Rewards (killing Pirates) 10. Has more 'historical accuracy' than current system displays IDEA: Every Player begins as an 'Independent Free Trader'. NOT a member of any nation More Free Ports added to Map and they would be in 2 Categories: 'Free Ports' and 'Safe Ports' The only difference being that 'Safe Ports have a protection area around them (as national ports do currently). INDEPENDENT (FREE) TRADER This would be the starting default setting for the beginning player. They: - Can ONLY sail, fleet or build 5th - 7th Rates!!!! - Do NOT have National Ports - CANNOT take part in Port Battles - CAN dock at ANY Port but must pay a tariff (except at Free/Safeports) (dont pay if smuggler flags enabled) - CAN build outposts and Buildings at Safe Ports or Free Ports - CAN teleport from Free/Safe Port to Free/Safe Port (*except below) - CANNOT attack other players (*except Pirates see below) - CANNOT be attacked by other players (*except Pirates see below) (or if smuggler flags enabled) This provides a safe(er) envronment in which new players can learn the game, trade, explore the map and be (relatively) safe from pvp gank, while they decide how they wish to play the game. The player then essentially has 4 Options: 1. Remain an Independent Free Trader 2. Become a 'Privateer' for any 'adopted' nation (NOT simultaneously) 3. Become a Privateer for an adopted nation and THEN 'Naturalize' and become a National 4. Become a Pirate (Players will have the ability to revert back to any of these states, but at a heavy price, see Below) PRIVATEER: AT ANY TIME Independent Free Traders can sail to a Nation Capital and acquire (buy) a 'Letter of Marque' (Ref 'Kotles' idea June 2) for that Nation. When activated the Player is a 'Privateer' for that nation and: - Can ONLY sail, fleet or build 5th - 7th Rates - CAN dock at (adopted) National Ports (no tariff) and Free/Safe ports - CAN NO LONGER dock at any Port (except as smuggler in trade ship in usual way) - CAN be attacked by any players of other (warring?) nations - CAN attack players of other (warring?) nations (not 'Independent free traders') - Can build outposts and Buildings at Free/Safe ports - CANNOT build outposts or buildings at the (adopted) National Ports (yet) - CAN teleport from Safe/Free port to Safe/Free port (but NOT national Ports (yet) - Can raise hostility and skirmish during PB's (although not enter the PB itself) (Becoming a) NATIONAL: After a certain amount of experience is gained while a Privateer for an adopted Nation the player then has the option to become 'naturalized' and become a member of the nation in the normal (current) way. (Thus unlocking 4th-1st Rates, Port Battles, Teleporting between and building Outposts and Buildings in National Ports) Then able to Build Outposts at National Ports but loses ALL Outposts and Buildings at Free/Safe ports and the ability to teleport between them. A Naturalised Player can revert back to Independent Free Trader at any time (after 1 week) BUT will lose any Outpost or Buildings in the National Ports (and then loses PB and 4th-1st Rate Sailing ability) OR: Player can remain a National Privateer OR: Become a 'Pirate' PIRATE: Independent Free Traders can 'hoist the Jolly Roger' and become 'Pirates' Once Jolly Roger is hoisted the player becomes a Pirate and loses any Outposts or Buildings at Safe Ports and ability Teleport to them (But retains Outposts and Buildings and ability to teleport between Free Ports) - Can ONLY sail, fleet or build 5th - 7th Rates!!!! - Do NOT have National Ports - CANNOT take part in Port Battles - CAN build outposts and Buildings at Free Ports (NOT Safe Ports) - CAN teleport from Free Port to Free Port (NOT Safe Ports) - CAN only dock at freeports (NOT Safe Ports) (unless smuggler tags in Trader in usual way) - CAN be attacked by any players - CAN attack any players (including Independent Free Traders) Pirates also have the option to get in a Trader Ship and Activate 'Smuggler Flags' and Sail to a National Capital. where they can 'Make Reparations'. Upon paying a (large?) sum of gold the Player loses all Buildings and Outposts and becomes a Privateer for that nation (from where (after 1 week) they can then revert back to Independent Free Trader) I cannot see any obvious alt (or otherwise) exploits of this (yet!!!) Obviously things can be tweaked Please Comment (constructively): Cheers
  10. Some Pirates are already exploiting the "outlaw" battle by hiding in it (all the same clan) with a national spy alt outside to call thew player ships sailing by. Dev's you must either A: Mark the outlaw battles for their entirety (including the 15 min after battle timer) or B: Make it so they can't be invisible and can't tag for 5 min after they leave it. Newish Brit player sails from Port Morant - sees nothing but another Brit near the point - goes on towards their destination and WHAM they are ambushed by 5 chicken poo pirates jumping from an invisible and impenetrable hidy-hole. The RUIN of this "game".
  11. OUTLINE Pirates should be unique I think everyone agrees on that. Basic vision of pirate nation is that pirates have no ships of the line, don’t conquer the land etc etc. However there are players who want to be pirates, but still experience SOL gameplay. For this to work Pirates needs to have such a mechanic that does not put them into disadvantage. Right now Pirates are a nation and must survive by nation means – expend their territories and protect their land and because of such must build SOLs and take part in conquest. Below is proposed detailed, simple to comprehend Pirate State mechanic that will sort out all pirate related issues and most importantly will keep nations less toxic towards pirates and give pirates the gameplay they are after. In short we remove pirate nation that has to compete with other nations in conquest of territories and introduce Pirate State that mainly lives off what it can catch. Pirates will no longer fight for conquest for themselves, but they will take participation in conquest as privateers for any nation they choose to privateer for. BELONGING Today pirates as we know it are a nation without identity. Any nation player can say I’m a Brit or Spanish or else. Pirates cannot do that as “Pirate” is not a nationality. However, all pirates did belong to some nation. There were British pirates, there were French pirates, Spanish etc. This means that all pirates needs to receive “nationality” and the Pirate nation become a State and be governed by the laws of the Brethren of the Coast. PIRATE’S NATIONALITY All pirates receive a nationality by their choice so all pirates become a mix of people of different nations, just as it was supposed to be. PIRATE TERRITORIES Pirates cannot own any land. To participate in any conquest they first must become a privateer for a nation to enter PBs on behalf of that nation. There are number of ports/places which are accessible to pirates. - National Free Towns - such as Nassau that belonged to Great Britain. Any British player OR a pirate may enter Nassau. Any French player OR a pirate may enter La Tortue and so on. All nations would have such towns that accessible by pirates and players of that nation; - Neutral Ports - Trade Hubs (3-4 on the map) can be entered by anyone including pirates. Their shops/markets are linked together, thus allowing access to the market of all of them so purchases, sales and contracts can be done distantly between them (note: the delivery is still done physically between any ports including hubs). - Pirate Dens - small hideouts like a secret harbour with a shop that has no NPC goods (only what is sold there by pirates themselves). Pirate Dens cannot be entered by any nation. Pirate Dens spread in large numbers across Caribbean and can be located on main lands and small islands in a distance from Nation towns. - Any Nation Town - can be entered by a pirate with a Smuggler tag. PIRATE PROFESSIONS Smuggler The smuggler tag is removed from all nations. Smuggler becomes exclusively a pirate’s profession and grants him entry into the nation's territory while in Outlaw state. While Privateering for a nation pirates may freely enter that nation ports. For nation players to trade or acquire goods that are not produced by their nation there should be global trade hubs - Neutral Ports (3-4 ports in various regions across the map that share shop information). Else they will have to deal with a pirate/smuggler to get them the goods. In order to become a smuggler and sell goods between nations a player have to become a pirate. Smuggler is a pirate trade profession equivalent to nation’s merchant profession. Privateering Pirate has to sail to a Nation Free Port (like Nassau for Brits) and acquire Letter of Marque. That grants him a temporary patent which means that he becomes that nation player for the duration period of the patent. In case if pirate becomes a privateer of his own nation the patent does not expire. During privateering pirate may take part in any nation’s activities such as conquest. Privateers are getting same PB and battle rewards as the nation players as a payment for their privateering work. Privateers can also participate and even conquer land solely as a privateer force, however the land becomes the nation's land they were serving under, thus each nation may have their own pirate forces working for them or with them. Privateers sail with two flags. The pirate flag and the flag of the nation they are privateering for. While privateering for the nation pirates technically become a player of that nation. They cannot attack players from that nation, neither they can be attacked by them in return. The patent can be canceled by the pirate at any time which will take 1 hours to take effect and 1 week cooldown before another one can be acquired from the same nation. Canceling privateering contract returns the pirate to the Outlaw state. Any one pirate can only have one privateering contract going on at any one time Pirate When pirates are not working for a nation as privateers they remain in the Outlaw state. This means that they are open targets for anyone and can attack any targets in return. While in the Outlaw state pirates may not participate in any conquest ports battles, however they may initiate a raid attack on any nation region. RAIDS Any group of pirates may initiate a raid attack on any nations regions and manually set time when the attack will happen (any time between 24 to 48 hours from the moment of declaration, except the time window blocked by Lord Protectors). If the raid PB won by the pirates the region is considered under Raid and blocked to a maximum of 3 days. It is still belongs to the nation (pirates can’t own regions), but all production buildings are stopped and no longer producing for the nation. Instead pirates automatically have access to the buildings that are producing in the region and they may gather resources while region is blocked. The resource gathering will become the most important reason for the pirates to raid any regions. Pirates do not need to build new building, they are raiding those that are owned by the nation and gather resources free of charge. Basically raiding them. The nation may retaliate and attempt to regain region earlier than the maximum 3 days blockade timer. They have to create PB in the same manner as pirates did when they attacked the region. The PB time also set between 24 and 48 hours. If nation wins the PB it takes the full control of the region. If nation loses the PB then the blockade runs until 3 day timer from the first pirate attack is expired.
  12. Hello Pirates, You maybe be know that because of their legal notices devs announced that they wont broadcast informations about players with the API. For this reason, and to know how many pirates we are and the number of clans we have, and also because i'm a real NA-fan, i release few days ago a landing page dedicated to the pirates community. At the moment Pirates are able to search a clan, a pirate, a manufacturer of ships and report his arrival to port (A pirate is considered alive as soon as he points out to the port at least once every 30 days and will be considered lost at sea at the end of the 31st day and missing after 60 days.). With this feature we will know who is active or not. You are all (Pirates only) invited to register and join the Naval Action Pirates Post. I hope u will enjoy. Naval Action Pirates Post is online via http://naval-action.arcantia.net o7 PS: I'm looking for someone able to translate the website in German. If you can help here is the file to translate. Cheers. lang_en.php
  13. История сообщества начинается в далёком 2004 году в игре под названием Бойцовский клуб, спустя год мы появились в Арена Онлайн, еще через полгода клан открыл свое представительство в LineAge II. Этот этап можно назвать переломным, именно тогда клан получил статус меж игрового и стал активно осваивать онлайн миры: Requiem, BFG, Combat Arms, WoW, PW, Aion, AA, Tera и многие другие. Подробнее об истории сообщества можно почитать на нашем форуме. Гильдия постоянно развивается и обретает новые грани. Мы будем рады видеть вас в наших рядах. О Гильдии в Naval Action Нация: Пираты . - Основное направление развития Клана - PvP; 1.1 Гильдия представляет меж игровое сообщество Bandits в игре Naval Action 1.2 Гильдия объединяет русскоговорящих игроков, но не является закрытой по языковому или иному признаку. 1.3 Гильдия играет только на первом/топ сервере (тут будет название) . 1.4 Философия Гильдии: приоритеты Гильдии важнее приоритетов игроков входящих в состав Гильдии . 1.5 Официальный язык Гильдии – русский. Допускается использование английского языка. 1.6 В качестве голосовой связи Гильдия использует TeamSpeak 3 (далее ts). Скачать ts можно здесь. 1.7 Форма правления в Гильдии: Монархия. В Гильдии есть самое главное правило стоящее выше других правил. Вступив к нам Вы обязаны постоянно находится в TeamSpeak. За не посещение TeamSpeak во время игры без уважительной причины (которая так же будет рассмотрена офицером на свое усмотрение, является Ваша причина уважительной или нет). Если Вы находитесь в игре, Вы обязаны быть в TeamSpeakе, исключение тем кто играет с работы и не может установить TeamSpeak на рабочем компьютере. Грозит немедленное исключение из Клана. Прием в Гильдию открыт. Для этого вам необходимо пройти регистрацию у нас на форуме , ознакомиться с уставом , заполнить анкету в разделе игры , ждать пока вам назначат собеседование , зайти в ts в назначенное время .
  14. New Pirate Mechanics

    Seen a few of these posts but thought I might as well have a go The aim of these ideas is to make the pirates a unique 'hardcore' pvp faction with interesting mechanics but also limited economic and military strength compared to the nations. These should also keep a nice balance of power between the industrial and pvp players in the nations. Pirates Economy One economy building per player 25% tax for all trades between pirates and other nations, including player to AI and player to player (bribes, mistrust etc) Production/ships Largest ship produced by pirates will be 5th rates Cannot purchase ships from other nations, any ships larger than a 5th rate will have to be captured (1 dura) Conquest Pirates will be unable to participate in the current conquest mechanics Nations will be unable to launch a port battle/flag against pirate ports New 'control' system describing the difficulties nations had at the time keeping the peace in their colonies Each national port/region will have a base 'control' score (CS) which will naturally decay over time. Local merchants (AI) will create hauling missions for national players to take goods to any ports that need it (similar to the current missions) to increase the CS for that region. If the CS for the region goes too low the nation then has 24 hours to increase the CS above the base score or the region will flip to the pirates. To recover a pirate port (any) nation can send goods near the port to reduce the pirate CS. If the CS goes low enough and stays below the base CS for 24 hours the port will flip to the nation that delivered the most goods. Pirate CS is increased by pirates transporting their own goods to the ports or by capturing/sinking enemy (player) trade ships in the region. These mechanics should create a situation where pirates become strongest on the borders or quiet areas of the national empires. Finding opportunities where nations are fighting each other and playing them off against each other. Small groups of pirates will be able to harass areas and capture a region or two by raiding ports and shipping trying to supply those ports – but find it extremely hard to hold onto those regions when an organised fleet of traders and warships try to take them back. (If technically possible) Pardons could be purchased by a pirate player at any free port which will allow them to join one of the nations for a fixed time (7/14/28 days). The cost of these pardons would depend on the rank and fame of the captain (see Zooloo's fame system for ideas) meaning a famous Curse would find it stupidly expensive. At the end of the time frame the captain would revert back to a pirate (with xp and fame penalties) and lose any of the advantages of being a national captain – 5 dura ships etc. Any comments welcome
  15. After waiting days In Port Carlisle for the prices of my investment in Lancashire Iron to improve I set out in my trader Brig for Port Morant. I had my head up was watching vigilantly. I noticed a small Pirate Lynx that passed me heading west as I rounded the point east of Carlisle. She came about and shadowed me to our stern on our heading. With my fleet of a cutter and lynx and the proximity of several healthy British war ships, and our capital, I was not seriously concerned about the little pirate. Then as I was on approach to Morant ... a Trincomalee charged out from Port Royal our west bearing down on us. From the Ships Log DAY 1 13:30hr 22:05rt Steady w-WNW Pirate Lynx bearing E - Heading E on our stern. She maintained this course and steadily gained. After a few hrs a Pirate Trincomalee also came up fast from west out of the the inside passage (SE of Port Royal) It was Blackjack Morgan. He slowed on approach to match my slower speed and engaged. First as I sat with no canvas he did nothing. Then as I started to move he fired some shot into my sails I ordered my fleet to escape and dropped my sails. Morgan approached our portside for boarding and I ordered all crew to the sails and repair. In spite of the horrendous damage to the sails they repaired them with lightning speed as if by magic. Ordering full sails I tried first bearing away to the east but the Trincomalee was much too fast so I turned to starboard and tested the ship on a beam reach. Still we were much much slower. Then Morgan connected a volley with our main mast and carried her away. We hailed him and indicated that we surrender and he replied to do so formally. We did. And In a heartbeat I was alone on the ocean. My ship, my fleet and Morgan was gone. My losses were very high. Over $200,000 which is the majority of my investment. I have not counted the losses to manpower. (Officers and crew). Now although I blame myself entirely, I do wonder if it does not seem reasonable to expect some level of protection in the home waters so close to our Capital. Are these pirates permitted to operate with total impunity, entirely unopposed.
  16. Balancing of Nations/Pirates

    I believe that the biggest balance issue, and part of the reason for the gank fleets, if not the whole reason, is simply player numbers in said nation, and or pirate "nation." To balance this issue i would suggest some sort of player limiting factor per nation that could be implemented by percentile. Depending on others opinions on how that percentile could work every nation should have a +- 0-5% of an even percent of the total players on the server that have logged on in the past X amount of time, allowing for an active nation. OR it could be a somewhat uneven balance more historical to the nations historical presence in the area, i.e. spain with a bunch of population followed by britian, america, dutch, swedes/danes, and pirates. This would limit the pirates, and make them also behave like pirates more than what they do now. However this is a game and that might not be very popular, or it could be very popular. Opinions, more implementation ideas, etc. all welcome.
  17. PIRATEN-PORTS - PIRATEN-PROVINZEN - PIRATEN-PORT-BATTLES A] PIRATEN hatten nie sichtbar Piraten-Städte oder gar Provinzen - Piraten hatten Verstecke. Vielleicht sollten also die jetzigen Piraten-Häfen umgewandelt werden in NEUTRALE PORTS, die von allen NATIONEN genutzt werden können - in denen aber PIRATEN (und nur sie) auch BUILDINGS errichten könnten. Vielleicht nicht alle, die die NATIONS haben können - aber ein paar PIRATEN-spezifische Gebäude wären doch toll. Wäre ein solcher Port lange genug von einer größeren (zu bestimmenden) Anzahl von PIRATEN bewohnt, würde er sichtbar. Oder vielleicht müßte er durch NATIONEN durch PIRATEN-JÄGER aufgeklärt werden? Wenn er sichtbar wird, andert sich in der MAP die Farbe zu PIRATE PORT, und nun könnte er per PORT BATTLE von den NATIONEN angegriffen werden. So könnten auch die PIRATEN PORT BATTLES haben. Wenn die NATIONEN die PORT BATTLE gewinnen, verfällt aller PIRATEN-Besitz im Port - Waren, Gebäude, Schiffe; und der Port wird wieder NEUTRAL - aber auch wieder (siehe oben) für Piraten nutzbar. Gewinnen die PIRATEN die PORT BATTLE, hätten sie die Chance, ihren ganzen Besitz woanders hin zu bringen, oder sie könnten den Port versuchen weiterhin zu halten. Sie sollten aber vielleicht - aus historischen Gründen - nie mehr als 3 - 5 solcher "offen sichtbaren" Ports haben können. PIRATEN sollten nie in der Lage sein, ganze Provinzen zu erobern. Vielleicht könnten sie aber in die Lage versetzt werden, einzelne Ports in NEUTRALE Häfen (siehe oben) umzuwandeln - wiederum durch PORT BATTLES. B] Es magsicherlich hart sein für PIRATEN, Beute zu machen und zu überleben. Aber es schadet NAVAL ACTION, wenn versucht wird, ihnen Vorteile zu verschaffen durch völlig unrealistische, miese Tricks. Das PIRATEN-Leben war nun mal, wie es war - rauh und hart. Sie wurden von allen Nationen gejagt, sie operierten in kleinen Gruppen oder allein, und sie mußten sich oft verstecken. Das PIRATEN-Leben ist vielleicht nur etwas für die Besten der NAVAL ACTION-Spieler. Es IST schwer zu überleben, und das SOLLTE ES AUCH SEIN. Denn alle NATIONEN hatten stärkere Kräfte, und viel mehr Schiffe. Warum denn die PIRATEN genause machen wie jede NATION schon ist - warum nicht ein ganz anderes Spielkonzept für sie? Laßt doch die PIRATEN trotz alledem das Beste daraus machen. DANN können sie stolz darauf sein, PIRAT zu sein. Es ist für viele, viele Spieler EXTREM unbefriedigend, daß PIRATEN sich in MISSIONS und BATTLE SCREENS verstecken. So hab ich schon MISSIONS gesehen, in die sie mit 15 Schiffen eingetreten sind - der Neuling da drin hat keine Chance! - und in denen sie sich dann verborgen halten. Wenn ihnen von draussen jemand über TeamSpeak sagt, daß da Beute kommt, dann kommen sie alle rausgehopst. "Beam me up, Scotty!" Da könnten die Devs doch auch gleich 'Wurmlöcher' oder 'Parallel-Universen' einführen. Selbst die PIRATEN müssen sich dabei schlecht fühlen, mit solchen unrealistischen, dreckigen Tricks zu kämpfen. Und selbst, wenn auch alle NATIONEN dieselben Tricks verfügbar haben - sie bleiben doch schmutzige Tricks, die hunderte von Spielern einfach nur zum Kotzen finden, und die das sonst so gute Spiel ruinieren. Ich hoffe sehr, daß die Devs dies lesen und in Betracht ziehen. Ich habe das nach vielen Gesprächen mit vielen Spielern ausgedacht, und Ideen von manchem anderen sind darin enthalten.
  18. TRUE PIRATE LIFE - Ideas for a more historical PIRATE system A] PIRATES never had provinces and well-visible port towns in real life - PIRATES had hiding places. So, after the wipe, the areas and ports for PIRATES could be NEUTRAL ports, which everybody could use, but in which ONLY PIRATES could build BUILDINGS - not every BUILDING perhaps - maybe special PIRATE-typical BUILDINGS. I call them NEUTRAL/ PIRATE PORTS in the further. Once a NEUTRAL/PIRATE PORT would be used by a high enough number of PIRATES, it would become VISIBLE - now it's colour would change from NEUTRAL to PIRATE PORT. From this point on, the port would be known to all NATIONS, and could be port-battled. PIRATES would have PORT BATTLES this way. If the NATIONS suddeeded in the PORT BATTLE, all PIRATE WAREHOUSES and docked ships would be lost for them, and the port would change to a NEUTRAL / PIRATE PORT again, until the whole repeated. If the PIRATES succeeded in the PORT BATTLE, they would have the chance to either move all their goods to another, yet "secret" NEUTRAL / PIRATE PORT - or they could stay and try to defend this PIRATE PORT against further attacks. But maybe PIRATES should never have more than 3 - 5 such visible PIRATE PORTS, to keep it historically close enough. PIRATES should NOT be able to conquer a whole region / province. But maybe they should be able to PORT-BATTLE single ports, and thereby turn them into NEUTRAL / PIRATE PORTS? These could be used like described above, until re-conquered by NATIONS. B] It may be hard for PIRATES to make any prey. But it is not good for NAVAL ACTION to have fake and very bad tricks going on to help the PIRATES survive. After all, PIRATE life was, what it was - they were hunted, and they were mostly operating single, and they were hiding a lot. PIRATE life maybe only for the best among the NAVAL ACTION players. It IS hard to survive as a PIRATE - and it SHOULD be. All NATIONS definitely had stronger forces, and many more ships. Let the PIRATES make the best of it. THEN they can be proud of being true PIRATES. What is an EXTREMELY UNSATISFYING SITUATION is, that PIRATES can hide in MISSIONS, and stay in BATTLE SCREENS as long as they want. They only have to kill the newbie, who is training in that MISSION, and then they can stay inside. Via TeamSpeak they can communicate with one ship outside the MISSION, and hop out if there is any prey - or just to run home. They might as well have 'wormholes' - "beam me up, Scotty!" We all know, this is so BADLY UNREALISTIC, that it should be eliminated. Even the PIRATES themselves know and feel, that this is EXTREME CHEATING. And even if the same tricks could be used by NATIONS - it remains something VERY UNREALISTIC. So please - remove that; it only annoys hundreds of players. I really hope that the devs do read our proposals, and that they may consider these thought, which I have developed after talking to many other players of NAVAL ACTION.
  19. Rework Pirates (nation)

    The game comes across as very realistic, and each update seems to make it even more so. There are some things that jar (and feel more out of place after each update), as they just don't fit, like "clans" instead of "Fleets", or being able to sail by a huge enemy AI fleet with impunity as it never attacks on its own initiative. The way the pirates are now is the same, it just doesn't come across as quite being as realistic as the rest of the game. I have some ideas for pirate benefits, as well as some liabilities that would, I think, (hope) still keep pirates as a faction that people will play, and also be a better fit to the game overall. Benefit: Pirate ships are faster than other player ships Historical basis: Pirates were fanatical about keeping their hulls cleaned, but they lacked shipyards to clean larger ships. Tweak: 5th rate ships and below should keep this benefit, Fourth, and 3rd rate ships should have no benefit, and 2nd and first rate ships would have a minus speed benefit (this also being one reason pirates didn't have larger ships). Benefit: Pirates were better marksmen with guns than even naval marines Historical basis: Pirates had to make landfall and hunt game for food. They had more practice then their military counterparts, and if they didn't become good shots, they went hungry. Tweak: Pirates should have a plus with regards to handguns, and muskets Benefit: Pirates should have a benefit when boarding ships. Historical basis: Everything they did was to ensure ships they wanted to capture would surrender quickly. tweak: Pirates should have boarding bonuses for boarding ships, more so for merchant ships. Liabilities: Pirates didn't have shipyards, even if they did, they wouldn't have naval architects, carpenters, craftsmen, etc. to man the shipyards. Pirates should be limited in the kinds of ships they can craft, offsetting this, they should be able to keep ANY ship they capture. Liability: Pirates didn't have access to brass or iron foundries or casting houses (as per shipyards) Pirates should be limited in their ability to purchase canons above a certain size. Also, pirate gunnery should have a negative modifier above a certain class of cannon as they were challenged to outfit their ships with cannons that were matched sets (another reason they didn't have larger ships like 3rd 2nd and 1st rates). Pirates would be limited to 9 or 12 pound cannons, and large ships (3rd, 2nd and 1st rates) would have negative modifiers to accuracy and damage. If the above were introduced, then pirates would have some significant advantages with regards to 5th rate and lower ships, but would be disadvantaged with 3rd rate and higher ships. More of their ships would be captured ships and fewer would be crafted/purchased, so to be fair, there should be an additional tweak to hit points (or improved damage control...etc) to off set the loss in durability. They would retain an advantage in boarding. 4th rate ships would be on average the same as all other nations. An additional idea would be to allow them easier access to all ports, but have a slight chance of being discovered (in reality, getting caught historically would result in being hung or placed in a gibbet at the ports entrance so all could see the dying pirate, or his corpse)...in game, maybe would result in the loss of the players ship and cargo, or possibly a percentage of wealth in fines (bribes) to escape. I think the above would make pirates a lot more realistic. They gain advantages at the lower level ships, are on par with everyone at the middle levels, but have some disadvantages with larger ships, they lose ship crafting ability, and lose easy access to cannons, but gain the ability to retain all captured ships, including 1st rates. Plus they would have boarding bonuses at all levels. One thing I don't have a suggestion on is fleet size. Pirates only very seldom operated in fleets and then only small groups of ships (up to 3 ships, not very often more than 3). Pirate captains generally didn't submit to another pirates authority, and also there wasn't a huge amount of trust when it came to splitting the spoils afterwards. A large decrease in the amount of prize money and goods could be imposed if the pirates had more than a certain number of ships in a battle but, I can't think of an offset to that (and I did come up with offsets for everything else). As the game is now, it seems pirates have advantages, and no disadvantages and are more like a separate nation than a loose confederation of outlaws. Assuming the game coding would allow the tweaks I'm suggesting, I think the above would make pirates be more like pirates, and still keep them as a viable faction.
  20. I would like an open discussion to see where Individuals, Clans, and Nations are as far as diplomacy goes for after the port wipe. There has been a lot of bad blood and alot of personal attacks and it has created a lot of poison and made the game toxic (at times). While there are other nations with their own diplomacy stuff to consider, I will start with my own (personal) stance. US, GB, VP, and Pirates. Its a vicious war and I have no qualms with continuing it. BUT not to the point where pirates take a capital or the pirates capital is taken (no nation will be able to resist Pirate Immunity, it will be a bum rush). This is because that will force the pirates into an alliance thus breaking what it means to be a pirate. Whether they cap or are capped the end result is the same. Additionally, the loser can also abuse their alliance to join battles and take up spaces and troll etc. I am on the fence on what to do, I back GB's US alliance 100% and would not support any peace if it meant they fight alone, but I also do not want to see Pirate nation ruined by a bad mechanic. (Thank you devs, we all know you work hard and that this is not the final product and was the lesser of several evils given your constraints o7) War or Peace among nations, that's what this thread is for. Please post your thoughts for your nation and your allies/enemies. This is not a thread to formally agree to anything, just a way for us to brainstorm and get what we're always saying and thinking written formally down.
  21. Suggestions for a Unique Pirate Faction

    Hello everyone, I wanted to pose a couple suggestions on ways to create a firm distinction between the Pirate "faction" and those of traditional nations. This is not meant as an exhaustive list, but should provide suitable fodder for discussion, and one that I hope the developers of Naval Action will consider if not in whole, then at least in part. First off, I find it highly annoying when someone posits that the game, or some facet thereof, is "broken". However, I think many would agree that the implementation of piracy as nothing more than another national interest is ahistorical, to say the least (brief historical attempts at a pirate "free state" notwithstanding). So, in light of that, I have considered ways that would make for the pirate faction to be very different from the national factions, yet still rewarding and interesting for the players who fly the black flag. I wish to offer as a disclaimer that I have not played as a pirate, but I have tried to be as objective as possible. 1) Pirates should not have ownership of ports, with the exception of a capital port, which, like any other cannot be captured. Instead, pirates should operate under a permanent "smuggler flag" and be able to enter any national port except a national capital. This means that pirates will not be able to capture ports, but a mechanism should be in place so that they could still "raid" a national port which would result in the same reward system as a current port battle, so as not to prevent pirate players from being able to receive port battle-type rewards. However, even in the event of a victory, they would not gain possession of the port - they would simply be doing it for the "loot", a much more traditional pirate motivation than control of territory. I would also suggest as an option that pirates be only able to set up an outpost in a free port - while they could enter national ports as smugglers, they could not have outposts there. This last is something I suggest as a consideration, as I am myself of two minds about the issue. 2) I have elsewhere suggested that in lieu of marine upgrades being the only way for a ship to have marines, that all national men of war should have a minimum number of marines as part of the normal complement. This number might be slightly increased by the marine upgrade, but the upgrade should affect RNG quality (perhaps in a constant percentage of close range ship to ship musket fire, or failing that, in a morale of other buff for boarding actions). However, as a pirate would generally not have access to national marines, pirate ships would not have this addition. Two factors would therefore change: first, that any ship to ship musket fire that might be introduced would have a much lower RNG for a pirate vessel firing on another - their sailors might be very good, but they would generally not be well trained (or well armed) for musket fire. Conversely, in actual boarding, particularly when attacking, a pirate crew would have a higher morale and RNG for damage given that boarding an enemy ship is exactly what a pirate crew would be trained to do. Thank you, and I offer this to the community for feed back.
  22. Privateer function (Pirates)

    This is a suggestion I've formed based on some input from some other pirates. Perhaps it would be possible at some point to introduce a privateer function for the pirates. The way it could work is that one nation could offer a contract to a pirate clan or just to individual pirates to assist them in battle for a reward of some description for a certain period of time. There would have to be a limit on the number of pirates they could hire, say 10-15 at a time to avoid the system being exploited. It would be good to have a function of this description as it would give the pirates some utility, rather than just have them sail around and annoy everyone, and it would allow pirates to participate in more high reward battles such as port battles and fleet actions. This system would also be useful for nations that are struggling to pull in new recruits or are being overwhelmed by well coordinated alliances, they could put out a contract and have 15 extra ships to help them.
  23. Over the past few months, my desk has become littered with books on piracy. Margarette Lincoln's British Pirates and Society, 1680 - 1730 I found to be the most useful, and most recent - referring back to many of the earlier books that I had either already bought or were recommended to me. After reading multiple articles, chapters, and whole books, I felt it was appropriate to write a paper on the subject matter between semesters. I tend to prefer PDFs for sharing of my work for proper footnotes and formatting, so please forgive me for having to go via Google Drive. That said, I present: Stateless Men: An Examination of Historical Piracy
  24. I am not one to argue for the nerfing of pirates, nor to demand that they are made “no longer a nation”. I don’t argue against either of these positions either. I don’t have an opinion either way, and I’m not particularly invested in the outcome. I am sure that whatever the developers come up with for the pirates, with input and correctives from the testing community, will eventually serve its purpose. However, I have been contemplating a lot on the implementation and the implications of the regional conquest system, and I got to thinking about how the pirate faction will fit into this, both strategically and in terms of gameplay. And I wish to offer my thoughts and suggestions. So, I think there have been multiple posts by devs, arguing that historical pirates did own ports, and that the devs want them to be able to do this in the game. I have no objections to this. Regardless I think it will be interesting to have pirates be able to own ports, and should they be limited, basically, to open waters only, that would be a significant drawback to the faction. They should be able to attack ports at least, be it in the future only to raid ports or to capture them. Yet now that the regional conquest system is beginning to take form, I wonder how the pirates should fit into this. Did pirates ever really conquer an entire map area with infrastructure and a capital city - i.e a region? (I haven’t read enough about it to say either way, feel free to enlighten me) Suggestion for Pirate conquest So how about if pirates were not able to conquer regions the same way as every other nation will be able to? How about if pirates were left the only faction that would still be able, after the new system, to conquer individual ports (quite similar to the current conquest system) - rather than regions? What if pirates were able to raise hostility/conquest meter in a region just like any other nation, but where other nations then have to attempt to capture every port of that region, or lose it in its entirety, pirates would have to choose one port of that region and assault that one (the owning nation could be left to guess until the last minute which specific port would actually be assaulted)? If pirates won the assault, that individual port would then be owned by the pirates, despite being part of a region held by another faction. The pirate port would be immune from reconquest by the owner of the region for the same length of time that regions will be immune (if even) from reconquest by nations after changing hands, or possibly twice as long. After that the owner of the region would have to raise hostility outside that particular port to open it up for reconquest. Pirates would be able to hold more than one port of a region, but only by raising hostility once - and taking a port - and then raising hostility again to take another port (and so on). Pirates holding a port in your region would mean extensive raiding of trade and resources in the region, and result in a percentage loss to trade income and resource production in the entire region for the nation that owns it. Pirates conquering a port of a region, would make a good base for them to raid the resources and raze the infrastructure of that region, probably also weakening it severely in case a neighbouring faction then decided to invade that region. Pirate conquest would be completely unrestricted by proximity and distance. Pirates, from Mortimer Town, could raid Tampico in the Gulf of Mexico, Tulum in the Yucatan, or Lagunillas in the Lago de Maracaibo, and own ports in each of the four corners of the map. Pirates could conquer deep into national territories. No economic zone or PvE-area of a nation would be safe from invasion and conquest by pirates. ----------------------------------- I believe this proposal could work to make pirates something distinct and different from nations, while maintaining them as an interesting faction. It could make pirates truly the joker of the map, while avoiding that they would be just another nation competing for dominance of the map and with an advantage in both strategy and numbers over many of the nations.
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