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  1. Flåden forlader København under engelsk flag 21. oktober 1807. Fleet leaving Copenhagen under British flag 21. October 1807 Linieskibe - Ship of the line: ARVEPRINS FREDERICH (1788) - 74 kanoner CHRISTIAN DEN VII (1805) - 96 kanoner DANNEMARK (1799) - 74 kanoner DITMARSKEN (1780) - 64 kanoner 1) FYEN (1788) - 74 kanoner JUSTITIA (1780) - 74 kanoner KRONPRINS FREDERICH (1786) - 74 kanoner KRONPRINSESSE MARIA (1793) - 74 kanoner MARS (1789) - 64 kanoner 2) NEPTUNUS (1791) - 84 kanoner 3) NORGE (1801) - 74 kanoner ODIN (1791) - 74 kanoner PRINDSESSE CAROLINE (1805) - 74 kanoner PRINDSESSE SOPHIE FREDERIKKE (1775) - 74 kanoner SEJEREN (1800) - 64 kanoner SKJOLD (1796) - 74 kanoner TRE KRONER (1794) - 74 kanoner WALDEMAR (1798) - 84 kanoner 1) Destroyed at Holmen. 2) Burnt at Holmen. 3) Went aground at Tårbæk Reff, and burnt. - Fregatter - Frigates: ELVEN (1800) - 18 kanoner FRIDERICHSSTEEN (1800) - 36 kanoner FRIDERICHSVÆRN (1783) - 36 kanoner FREYA (1795) - 40 kanoner FYLLA (1802) - 20 kanoner GLÜCKSTADT (1804) - 18 kanoner HAVFRUEN (1789) - 30 kanoner IRIS (1795) - 40 kanoner PERLEN (1804) - 44 kanoner LILLE BELT (1801) - 20 kanoner NAJADEN (1796) - 36 kanoner NYMPHEN (1807) - 36 kanoner PERLEN (1804) - 46 kanoner ROTA (1801) - 40 kanoner ST. THOMAS (1779) - 36 kanoner 2) TRITON (1791) - 28 kanoner 2) VENUS (1805) - 36 kanoner 2) Burnt at Holmen Brigger - Brigs: ALLART (1807) - 18 kanoner DELPHINEN (1805) - 18 kanoner DEN FLYVENDE FISK (1787) - 14 kanoner GLOMMEN (1792) - 18 kanoner MERCURIUS (1806) - 18 kanoner NID-ELVEN (1792) - 18 kanoner SARPEN (1792) - 18 kanoner the years in Brackets are when they where launched.
  2. Are we to expect to see La Commerce in all her glory of her original paint scheme (at least when initially released to the trials before ship customization)?? https://troisponts.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/commerce-de-marseille-2.jpg If so, it's something to look forward to greatly! She's a stunning looking ship!
  3. I was just thinking, we have Frigates, some of which could be classified 4th rates (Constitution comes to mind) and we have 3rd rates like the Bellona and the incoming Ingermanland but no 50-60 gun 4th rates, even in the works. So anyone aside from me like to see some focus on true 4th rate SoLs of 50-60 guns??
  4. The gap between consti-bellona than bellona-victory is high we need more 50-70 guns ships expecial middle ways 50-64 cannons (between consti and bellona ) and between bellona and victory maybe a 2nd rate 78-84 guns? Personally i prefer my bellona than my santi, firepower is huge and mobility is acceptable, actually imho bellona is the best ship in game, small for his size, quite agile, well armored, good calibers and numbers of cannnos/options can really punch even first rates with double dmg at short range, and definitively outgun and tank any frigate at distance. ships like valiant or wenden can do as 2nd-third rate while a mordaunt can be a very good fourth rate before bellona or the phoenix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Fenix_(1749) ps: little note about cerberus imho need 4-6 more guns aka : 32 gun version, is not a good trade from snow to cerberus, similar dps much bigger target still low armor and less manouvrability, the surprise is way better.
  5. Dutch Ship "Beschermer" (The Protector) - 1665 Dimensions: length 141 ¾ (Dutch) feet, width 36 ½ feet, depth 14 feet, no fore castle, 54 guns. The ‘Beschermer’ was the Dutch flagship at the Battle of Tobago (1677), where it was captured by the French forces. On the way back to France, the captured ship struck a reef and perished. Don't no if there are somewhere plans/drawings/blueprints.
  6. The Frigate was finished in 1684 and it was able to carry a maximum 60 guns in total ( 5 pounders and 12 pounders ). It s length over all was 125 feet and the breadth was 34 feet. It started it s service in 1684 as an escort ship until it sank and burnt down in 1693 after it was attacked by 2 french frigats and a fireship
  7. Oldenborg 1740 It was designed by a danish naval architect using french design methods. The rigging was made from English measurements, but the blocks and details are french. The stern was mostly copied from the french Le Fleuron of 1730.
  8. Launched in 1719 at Portmouth. In 1782 Royal William took part in the navy operations which led to Gibraltar’s liberation. Also in that same year, the ship was involved in the salvage attempt of Royal George, which overturned in Spithead causing the death of 900 persons. In the end it was assigned as anchor-watch at Portsmouth, until 1813 , then demolished. Its survival for almost a century compares strongly with the typical six-year life span of so many other ships. Armament : First battery: 34 guns of 32 inches Second battery: 28 guns of 24 inches Third battery: 18 guns of 8 inches GUNS 104
  9. Danish Flagships form the 17th Christianus Quintus aka Prins Christian aka Elefanten/The elephant length 146 ft, width of 38 ft, and a depth of 13 feet and 9 inches armed with 84 guns and a crew of 567 men. Fredericus Quartus Fredericus Quartus 1699 was one of the largest ship in the world in her time , and largest in Danish Navy ever. She was 1695 laests (c.3400 t.) displacement. Dimensions were : 185 x 50 x 21, draught was 20-2/22-2(22-6) ft. Guns:28-36, 28-18, 28-12, 20-6, 6-4 = 110 (1992 lb.) The crew was 950 men. Version 2 Sophia amalia Deplasement : 2000 tonn Length strings : 165 English fot width: 38.6 fot , 40.3 fot depth : 17.6 fot , 20 fot Beset Ning : 430-680 mann , can have 885 mann Components: 86-108 guns Dannebroge - Danish LineShip 94 Cannons Length 164 ft (51.5 m) Width 42.5 feet ( 13.3 m) Draught 20.5 feet ( 6.4 m) Thats it for now, i hope you enjoyed. There might be historical inaccuracies.
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    I found this ship while searching trough the web and i really want to know what ship is this? I have never seen something as stunning as this ever, and i really hope this in the time period of the game or i will cry. A picture of it:http://bestyaht.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Warship-Dutch-70-76-gun-two-decker-circa-1665_Scale_1_44_06-300x300.jpg It looks really mutch like Mammoli Friesland wich is built around 1663 And is a ship that i have tried before to get in the game.
  11. S. Antonio da Padova Building a ship: http://serikoff.ucoz.ru/_fr/3/4884044.jpg
  12. May I suggest the Spanish 112 gun ship of the line Santa Ana: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Santa_Ana_(1784)
  13. Two ships that i came across that i have searched a little on. Vengeur (1765) 64-gun Vengeur was originally built as an East Indiaman by the French company of the Indies, and fought in the American war of independence, that means that she will be a great warship also as an trader. Vengeur du peuple (1766) 74-gun She took part in the American war, and she is remembered for when she sank and was used for propaganda because they say she did go down fighting. Both fine but the Vengeur (1765) is the best becuase she is a trader and a warship and that makes two in one really, but i havent found any ship plans but i think "Vengeur du peuple" has becuase she is very popular. Still open to ideas or other ships but if still possible please post pics of the ships
  14. There will be this ship with 140 guns 32 lb? if they put it would probably be the most powerful ship in the game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pennsylvania_%281837%29
  15. Im very intrested in those 74s and the reason is that they have so much more soul in my mind than the 1st rates and the Bellerophon is the finest British ship out there but i know the ship list is long but i have made a long list about to get more french or get the Téméraire-class ship of the line because she is the type of my favorite ship the Redoutable and the Bellerophon catches my eye just as the Redoutable does and if there is a ship that i think is as worthy as the Téméraire to come to the game it must be this i know there already is Bellona but this could be another British alternative when its later in the game and i could post some pictures of Bellerophon to get you all in love with the beauty. ;3 The thing i want to see is this or Téméraire so if somone has made somthing like this in those programs i would be happy to see one made. please..
  16. Not much info about the ship but here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Alfred_%281778%29 Admiralty drawings http://imgur.com/a/1rZra
  17. There is precious little or next to nothing on the ship in english language. Laid in 1780 and launched in 1784, it took part in action against Turkey. Legnth 160 feet, width amidships 44 feet and 4 inches. Having trouble translating the height of draft and free board - seems to be 19 feet all together.
  18. Hello! I want to present the spanish 3rd rate ship of the line Nuestra Señora de la Asunción. It's also known as Guipuzcoano, because it was build by/for the Real Compañía Guipuzcoana de Caracas (Royal Guipuzcoan Company of Caracas). She was based on the design of another 3rd rate, the San Genaro. I think that this ship can be very important for the game, as it was a private ship of the line, not owned by any armada until it was captured by the british admiral Sir George Rodney, only two years after being launched. With 64 cannons at her disposal, the fire power didn't prevent her from having a large capacity, with a cargohold of 6 meters in height for almost 13 in length. Due to this, she was classified as an hybrid between a warship and a merchant ship. Her oversized dimensions of the keel, stem and stern frame made her and excellent sailer. The british, very impressed with this ship, not only named her HMS Prince William, but also made an outstading plane exposed on the National Maritime Museum of London (Wich sadly I couldn't find - found by Alex Connor) As I said, I think that this ship is very important, as she is an historical evidence that private corporations or societies did have the resources to build and maintain ships of the line, regardless of whether it was a wise decision or not. Think about it, a ship with this fire power, cargo capacity and that sailed fairly well? Yes please! It can be a beautiful end-game content for the big player societies. I hope you like it!
  19. Le Sans Pareil The Sans-Pareil ("Peerless") was a ship of the line project presented to Louis XV between 1757 and 1760. No actual ship of the French Navy bore the name, though the Royal Louis was built on the scheme. At the beginning of the eighteenth century, the size and power of the main capital ship was subject to a notable increase. The ships inflated from 50 guns and 300 men to 120 guns and 1,200 men, though most of the fleet was composed of the more reasonable 64-gun, 74-gun and 80-gun two-decker ships, the three-deckers being typically the flagships. On the other hand, the artillery techniques undertook no significant improvement, with the old smooth-bore pieces, and a practical range of about 500 to 600 metres. A typical 108-gun ship of the time was about 56 metres long at the waterline, 16.5 metres wide, 20 metres high (hull) and carry two 990 square-metre sails. The Sans-Pareil was a project to build a series of ships taking into account new improvements in ship design. The name was suggested twice to Louis XV; in 1751, the king preferred Océan, and in 1757, Royal-Louis, Médiateur, Majestueux, and Indomptable. Only the Royal-Louis was actually built; due to the huge costs of construction, the three others were replaced with smaller-sized ships of the line. The Sans-Pareil only existed as a 1/30th model which is now kept at the Musée de la Marine in Paris. It is very likely to offer only very minor differences to what the Royal-Louis was like when she was launched in Brest in 1759. The figurehead featured a lion. The ornaments of the aft were simplified, integrating the overall lines and structure of the ship.
  20. HMS Colossus Ship Plans: http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=17025.0 When Colossus was built by way of plans taken from a captured French prize of a then well known fast and effective French 74 gun battleship called the Courageux. This was a deliberate act by the Admiralty as the Courageux was a ship with an impressive and formidable reputation. British shipbuilders, however, improved on the French design. They also replaced the 24lb upper deck guns she carried with smaller lighter 18lb weapons on the Colossus; a similar act occurred with the quarter deck guns; this all went to make the Colossus the much faster and more impressive sailor described in the references presented below. Her keel was laid in 1781 by a Quaker shipbuilder named William Cleverly and Launched in 1787, the design of the Colossus set a new precedent for the British shipbuilder of 3rd rate ships of the line from then on. HMS Colossus soon earned a fine reputation as one of the best and fleetest warships in the British Navy. During her short life of just 11 years service, apart from taking part in major naval engagements, Colossuscovered other duties. Occasionally she served as a convoy escort; as indeed she did during two huge but ill fated West Indies expedition fleets of 1795. However, her main job was on station with what was known at the time as:- “the Blockading inshore squadron”; a duty Colossus performed well off Toulon, Malta and Cadiz. The Naval chronicle states that- “Only the fastest ships in the fleet are chosen for such duty.” In 1793, due to her reputation for being swift, Colossuswas rushed by Admiral Lord Hood to Cagliari for reinforcements to aid in the then ensuing siege of Toulon. Hood wrote of her quick return: “His Majesty’s ship Colossus returned to me today bringing with her 350 good troops” After numerous successes like these, the Times newspaper later wrote:“Colossus was one of the finest 74’s in the service, and a prime sailor” During her time Colossus had no less than seven Captains, three of which entertained Admirals on board- Admiral Pole; Admiral Christian; and if only briefly-the now famous Admiral Cornwallis. It is interesting to note that Admirals chose the ships in which they served; often opting for the biggest, grandest, or more often as not, the fastest ships in the service. Even in battle Colossus was often chosen to take the lead. After the Battle off the French Island of Groix, in 1795, Admiral Lord Bridport stated: “I made the signal for four of the best sailing ships to chase down the French; Sans Parell; Orion; Russell; and Colossus”. When they caught up with the fleeing enemy fleet the ensuing battle, which lasted for over three hours, took place within easy range of many enemy shore batteries. During the lengthy engagement, high up on Colossus’ mainmast, a Scottish piper played heartily on his bagpipes until the French struck their colours in defeat. Two years later in 1797, while back on blockade duty off Cadiz, the then Captain of Colossus, George Murray, was singled out for praise by a Spanish Admiral who stated that:“ Colossus had kept up so unremitting a watch” that under a flag of truce he invited Murray to a bull fight. Even though the Spaniard offered up his own nephew as insurance,Murray “thought it proper to decline the invitation.” In the squadron at this time Murray in Colossus was serving directly alongside Nelson in Theseus who wrote in candour: “We are looking at the ladies walking the walls and Mall of Cadiz and know of the ridicule they make of their sea officers” A little later Colossus and three other warships were sent by the Admiralty to bolster the main fleet at sea; which was about to see action in a major Battle off Cape St Vincent. The Mediterranean Fleets overall Commander, Sir John Jervis, wrote to his superiors of his gratitude:- “Thank you for sending so good a batch, they are a valuable addition to my already excellent stock” Again, when battle commenced,Colossus was one of the first ships sent into the fray; and bearing the brunt of the first broadsides in front of the Spanish guns; some of her rigging was immediately shot away and severely damaged. Consequently she took no further part in the engagement. After repairing her rigging at Lisbon Colossus was sent back on station off Cadiz; until in 1798 Nelson requested all assistance to defeat the French fleet which was believed to have entered the Mediterranean. The Battle of the Nile was about to commence. Overall Commander, Sir John Jervis, replied to Nelsons request:“The Colossus is now most powerfully manned and Murray is to good a fellow to be left when so much is needed to be done.” Although the ship did not actually take part in the action at Aboukir Bay, as the British conquering battle damaged fleet limped back to the Great Bay of Naples to repair, Colossus chased down and successfully captured one of 3 French warships that had escaped from the engagement. Whilst the rest of the fleet was repairing at Naples,Colossus went straight back to the Inshore Squadron; this time off Malta until reinforcements came to retake the Island into British control. Colossus did not return to the repairing fleet at Naples until months later. By the end of September 1798, with the other ships almost ready again for sea Colossus, via Gibralta, rejoined the fleet at Naples. “Every assistance has been given to the Vanguard, the Culloden; and Alexander so that these ships will be fit again to sea in a few days. Yesterday His Majesty’s ship Colossus, Captain Murray, with four victuallers from Gibraltar, came to anchor in this port”-(Naples) It was at this moment Captain Murray gave up his spare Bower anchor (and three of his ships guns) to Nelson in the Vanguard; this simple gift of an anchor between friends helped to seal the fate of Colossus later at Scilly. Within weeks the city of Naples needed to be evacuated and Colossus was chosen, by Nelson himself, to take a precious and extremely valuable collection of Greek antiquities back to England. This was a personal favour to British ambassador, and friend of Nelson, Sir William Hamilton. His choice of ship, probably due to her swift reputation, was deliberate. The choice was also not taken lightly, as any ship given this task was about to brave the storms of a fast approaching winter; not an ideal time to be out in the Atlantic Ocean. On her way home to England Colossus stopped of at Algiers where the Dey, in light of recent British victories at sea, and in showing simple admiration towards one of His Majesty’s ships of War, presented Captain Murray with a golden Sabre. Colossus then set sail for Lisbon where she was to take on board the body of Lord Shuldham. Also in the River Tagus at this time, a convoy of transports were waiting to sail home under the protection of Colossus and other ships of war. The convoy, most of which was:- “bound forIreland and other northern ports” then set off for England. Colossus along with eight other smaller vessels then parted company with the main convoy somewhere out in the entrance of the English Channelas planned. On the 7th December 1798 Colossus entered the Isles of Scilly to seek refuge from a north westerly gale. She came to anchor in St Mary’s Roads with a view to ride out the storm before setting off on the last leg of her journey. Unfortunately, three days later on the 10th of December, the wind veered around to the south east. As it grew ever stronger one of the ships main Bower anchors broke and, in the teeth of the gale, Colossus dragged on the one remaining anchor. Without a spare Bower anchor to throw in, having given it to Nelson at Naples, nothing Murray did would arrest the ships progress towards the rocks. Eventually Colossus was wrecked on the Southard Wells reef off the foot of Samson Island.
  21. HMS Experiment (British 4th Rate, 50 Guns) Ship designed by Sir John Williams; built Adams & Co., Deptford, river Thames; launched 23 August 1774; 50 guns 4th Rate; dismasted in a gale and taken captive by the Sagittoire, French fleet 24 September 1778 off American east coast on passage from New York to Savannah Looking for ship plans!
  22. HMS Serapis was a Royal Navy two-decked, Roebuck-class fifth rate. Randall & Brent built her at Greenland South Dockyard, Rotherhithe[2] and launched her in 1779. She was armed with 44 guns (twenty 18-pounders, twenty 9-pounders, and four 6-pounders). Serapis was named after the god Serapis in Greek and Egyptian mythology. The Americans captured her during the American Revolutionary War. They transferred her to the French, who commissioned her as a privateer. She was lost off Madagascar in 1781 to a fire. Plans:
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