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Very beautiful looking 4th rate warship from 1750. Possible gundeck 24s/18s/9lb?

'Svyatoy Pavel' Built as a ship of the line at Nikolaev, Ukraine by the shipbuilders I. Afanasiev and I. Sokolov in 1794, for the Russian Imperial Navy. Launched under the name SVYATOY PAVEL, (Saint Paul). She carried a gilded figurehead of the Apostle Paul, her stern was decorated with a two-headed eagle, and above the stern windows of the upper gallery, and there was an embossed Sate Emblem. She carried no top on the bowsprit, but only jibs and staysails. Carried also staysails between the masts. She was the flagship of Vice-Admiral Fyodor F. Ushakov 1744-1817, based in the Black Sea. When in 1798 Russia and Turkey became allies, after the French fleet seized Malta and Napoleon began his campaign in Egypt, the Russian Black Sea Fleet was allowed to pass the Bosporus to the Mediterranean. 1798 Vice Admiral Ushakov on board his flagship SVYATOY PAVEL with a Black Sea squadron passed the Bosporus and joined the naval forces of the Turkish Admiral Kadyr Bey, thereafter the combined fleet headed for the Ionian Islands at that time occupied by French. The combined fleet of 10 ships of the line, including four Turkish. 9 frigates, including four Turkish and three Russian and 8 Turkish small warships. Not long thereafter two ships of the line of the Russian Black Sea and three ships of the line and one frigate of the Baltic fleet joined Ushakov. From December to November French fortifications were seized by troops of Ushakov fleet on the islands of Cerigo, Zante, Cephalonia and Saint Mauro, and the important Corfu fortress was blockade by the fleet. Ushakov made a landing on Corfu and attacked Vido Island. On the morning of 18 February 1799 after a signal from his flagship SVYATOY PAVEL, seven ships of the line and ten frigates commenced bombarding the island coastal fortifications and batteries. The batteries were silenced and 2.000 assault troops stormed the island, capturing 422 French troops. A damaged French warship the 54 gun LEANDER retreated to the walls of Corfu and the protection of the city batteries. When the Russian-Turks force stormed the first fortifications of Corfu the situation became hopeless for the French commandant and the city captured. (As given on the Russian MS 6806 of 5Rb issued in 1999, see below.) 636 Guns and mortars were captured, also the LEANDER a frigate LA BRUIN and 14 small craft. 2.931 French troops were taken prisoner. Ushakov was after the victory promoted to the rank of Admiral. After the victory the fleet was used to attack French supply routes and assist Allied forces in Italy, the towns of Brindisi, Mola and Bari were taken, and Ancona was blockaded. On 3 June 1799 the Russian forces together with troops from Naples liberated Naples. In September Ushakov left Italy and sailed with course Malta, to assist the English navy to recapture the island still in de hands of the French troops, but the English troubled by the quick strengthening Russian force in the Mediterranean, refused the help of the Russian navy. Vice-Admiral Nelson the commander of the British fleet off Malta even attempted to dispatch Vice-Admiral Ushakov and the Russian forces to Egypt. At least an arrangement was reached between Nelson and Ushakov, to send a small Russian squadron to Egypt under command of Vice Admiral Victor Kartsov. Ushakov was the senior of Nelson in rank, and in the attack on Malta, Nelson had to follow the Russian officers orders. The Malta attack did not take place and in the end of 1799 Vice Admiral Ushakov received orders to return to the Black Sea with his fleet. I cannot find the fate of the SVYATOY PAVEL, and of she was used again after 1799. 1810 Out of service. Plans

The first time Ive seen this ship I fell in love to her. Its a little ship of the line - maybe the smallest SoL the dutch ever bothered to launch. (her class at least). But there appears to be no plans whatsoever. There are several plans of 50 gun SoLs but most of them just dont have the flavor of this particular vessel. https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/NG-MC-656 If the real plans dont exist Id really love to see a 44 gun twodecker without any ewatherdeck guns. Means there is no prominent forecastle or quarterdeck. The image above has those two parts very suttle. Nothing "in your face" about it imo. Her sides look very clean. Maybe someone has plans to her or maybe knows some more about this class of ships. I am eager to learning more about her!

German convoy ship 1722 "Wapen von Hamburg" The wapen from Hamburg (III) from 1722 was a Hamburg ship convoy. It was commissioned by the Hamburg Admiralty and the Hamburg merchants in order and had to accompany the task convoys of Hamburg's overseas trading partners and to protect them from enemy attacks or raids by corsairs and pirates. When the convoy ships thus it was with permanent warships escort mission, the 1669-1747 sheltered in Hamburg's convoy shipping and ensured trade to and from Hamburg and thus a place in Hamburg's position as a trading center sustainable. corrected her name bungee

Laid down in St. Petersburg in 18.7.1805. Designed by I. V. Kurepanov. Launched in 1.7.1808. Saw service in the Napoleonic Wars. Dimensions: Length of Gundeck 206' 0" Imperial Feet / 62.79 m Breadth 51' 5" Imperial Feet / 15.67 m Depth in Hold 23' 6" Imperial Feet / 7.16 m Displacement 4,184.4 Ton Armament: 120 guns 1808/07/01 Broadside Weight = 1350 Russian Artillery Pound (1471.5 lbs 667.44 kg) Lower Gun Deck 32 36-Pounders Middle Gun Deck 34 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck 34 18-Pounders Quarterdeck/Forecastle 20 6-Pounders http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10532

Introduction Leon Trionfante at 70 guns was one of the largest and most successful ship classes in the late Venetian navy. The Leon Trionfante class has an impressive history of use serving both in the Venetian and later the French navy over an impressive time span of 109 years between 1716 to 1825, serving in the Second Morean war, The Venetian Tunisian war and the Napoleonic Wars. The long service history is in part due to the way the Venetian government was operating its navy in the last century of the republic of Venice, partly due to the design being ahead of its time but also in part due to the poor success of the following San Carlo Borromeo Class. The Leon Trionfante, as the nameship of her class was first designed and laid by Francesco da Ponte di Angelo in 1714 as a one of a kind to move the Venetian navy on from the much more contemporary design shown in the San Lorenzo Zustinian Class (1690) and after the Venetian State had decided that the Corona, another one off design for a 74 drawn up in 1711 was deemed to expensive in terms of both production and maintenance. History Leon Trionfante was born into a particularly unstable time frame the as long standing hostilities between Venice and the Ottomans had broken into the 7th and final Venetian Ottoman war (1714-1718), also known as The Second Morean War. Her launch in July was immediately followed by a rush to join up with the rest of the Venetian fleet which was currently in a sticky predicament facing a larger Ottoman fleet with far more firepower off the coast of Corfu in the Ionian sea. The island of Corfu was of considerable importance to Venice, seen as the eye to the Adriatic, the core of the Venetian maritime commerce and territory, the Venetian state had outlined that Corfu must be kept at all costs, Corfu also offered the largest Venetian naval base outside of Venice. The Ottomans had been putting Corfu under considerable pressure since 1715, forcing the Venetian Navy to shadow the Turkish fleet. On the 8th of July the Ottomans landed a considerable land force of 33,000 men on Corfu, The Venetian navy hassled them during their deployment but the battle remained indecisive. Leon Trionfante reached the rest of the Venetian fleet on the 10th of July accompanying two troop ships, prompting a morale boost for the Venetians and resulting in a daring plan which resulted in the superior Venetian seamanship giving them a considerable positioning advantage over the Turks. The siege collapsed in August following a mighty storm which caused considerable damage to the Ottoman fleet but was weathered with little damage to the better positioned Venetian Fleet, costing the Ottomans a humiliating defeat and withdrawal. After the storm and defeat on Corfu the Ottoman ships limped home and the Turkish started to pursue a more land based campaign, this in turn aggravated the Autrians into a simultaneous conflict started in 1716. The conflict was also expanded on with the formation of a new Papal coalition against the ottomans, with The Holy League of 1717, resulting in naval reinforcements from Portugal, The Papal States and Maltese Knights. With the support of this holy league Venice became more assertive and set sail from Corfu towards the Dardanelles with the aim of cutting off the Ottoman Fleet. The result of this maneuvering was a confrontation in the northern Aegean between the 26 ships of the Venetian Fleet and the 44 Ottoman ships, which were also larger than their Venetian counterparts. The resulting battle left 6 Ottoman ships and the Venetian ship Columba badly damaged, the results are considered indecisive but a Venetian tactical victory. A month later, the Holy league Fleet had combined and continued to press against Ottoman interests, and on the 19th of July the two forces clashed again at the Battle of Matapan, where the larger Allied fleet of smaller ships inflicted a crushing victory over the Ottoman Fleet including significant damage to the huge ottoman flagship, the 114 gun Kebir Üç Ambarlı. A year later the Venetian fleet engaged the Ottomans in the second Battle of Matapan, resulting in the Ottoman navy being reduced to an insignificant threat and the two sides finding a peace deal. During this conflict, these 3 battles and the maneuvering at Corfu gave Leon Trionfante a considerable name for itself, continuing to serve the Venetian navy until she was broken up in 1740, having vastly outperformed the now outdated San Lorenzo Zustinian ships in war and peace. However, despite the combative success during the Second Morean War, the Venetian state chose to maintain their building program of the San Lorenzo class due to the efficiency bonus given to it being well known to the craftsmen and suppliers of the Arsenal. Following the end to the Second Morean war we see more interest being shown in Leon Trionfante and over the next 20 years the Venetian state ordered several more ships, with a considerable program being launched in 1719, another in mid 1720s and a third during the 1730s, however none of these ships were launched before 1761. In each of these 3 programs the design was adjusted slightly, with little tweaks here and there, mainly resulting in fairly insignificant changes to the length of the ship. The long build periods were a common thing in Venice, the practice of covered dry docks and stable climate allowed long construction times and ships tended to only be added to during prosperous or troubled periods where the state could afford or was forced to pay for ship construction. The progress was also somewhat delayed by the new San Carlo Borromeo class, which was conceived in 1741, with the name ship being launched in 1750. The San Carlo Borromeo class, whilst being technically a more modern class was somewhat backwards when compared to Leon Trionfante, she was also armed with 4 fewer guns. The San Carlos took a more more conservative approach to ship design with a lot of inspiration from the now wholly outdated San Lorenzo class, in total 6 were ordered. However during the late 1750s Venice began a series of sea trials off the coast of Portugal looking into how their navy coped in the rougher Atlantic waters. The San Carlo Borromeo was noted for performing poorly, the ship was unable to keep any significant speed and when she was sailed hard she became both unstable and started to damage herself in the large waves, The ship was deemed unsafe and had to be rescued by a Galleass captained by the young Angelo Emo, being towed back to port, barely staying afloat. It was now decided that the two most complete ships from the Leon Trionfante program were to be launched, following their launch in 1761 the sea trials continued, the two new ships, San Giacomo and Buon Consiglio performing excellently in all areas, the results of these sea trials was the relative scrapping of the San Carlo program with the resumption of building the Leon Trionfante. As Venice continued to invest into the class the Independence movement started to draw the eyes of the European power westwards, resulting in lax Mediterranean shipping security and the rise of piracy in north Africa. the new ships of the Leon Trionfante class became increasingly popular as escorts to merchant convoys and as tensions rose became increasingly important in deterring pirates, however their size and speed made them unable to chase down or offer any real threat to the fast Barbary ships, to combat Venice began a modernisation process resulting in better construction methods and faster ships, and while a new ship, the "1780" was planned to replace the Leon Trionfante class this new design never saw a completed ship under the republic, in part because the Leon Trionfante class was still performing its role well after over 60 years of service at this point. As tensions rose and the break out of a full scale conflict between the Bey of Tunis and Venice in 1784, the Leon Trionfante ships would see considerable service during this war, while it was unable to chase down the smaller faster Tunisian ships it offered considerable firepower and the ships were used extensively in the bombardment and destruction of Tunisian harbors. after the cessation of conflict in 1790 with Angelo Emo's death the Venetian state became short of funds and their navy began to shrink down but the Leon Trionfante class continued to serve until the end of the republic in 1797 Following the Annexation of Venice and its land by France the remaining 6 serving ships of the Venetian fleet were captured and began to serve under the French flag. The french did however spend quite some time and resources completing the various Venetian half built ships left in the Arsenal sheds, this meant the final ships of the construction plans of the 1730s were completed and brought into use serving various roles in the French naval expeditions, with a large selection of the remaining ships being sent to Toulon and outfitted to form Napoleon's expedition to Egypt, due to this they eventually came into conflict with the Royal Navy. Over time the ships became damaged in combat or due to wear and tear, The last surviving ship Medea, had begun her construction in 1732, launched in 1793 and was finally broken up in 1825 after 32 years of service. The Leon Trionfante Class The Leon Trionfante class consisted of 16 ships in 4 different Series, The First Series: Leon Trionfante, 70 guns (1716) San Giacomo, 70 guns (1761) Buon Consiglio, 70 guns (1761) Fedelta, 70 guns (1770) Forza, 70 guns (1774) The Second Series: Corriera Veneta, 70 guns (1770) Diligenza, 70 guns (1774) Fenice 2, 70 guns (1779) Galatea, 70 guns (1779) Third Series: Vittoria 2, 70 guns (1785) La Guerriera, 70 guns (1785) Medea, 66 guns (1793) Unnamed, 66 guns (1800) was transformed into a floating gunned pontoon by the Austrians Fourth Series: L'Eolo 1785 San Giorgio 1785 Unnamed, 66 guns (1800) was transformed into a gunned pontoon by the Austrians Armaments: I am giving the cannon poundage in Venetian Pounds. Early Armament (Leon Trionfante Only): 6 x 120lb (shell) (main gun deck) (English pounds ??) 24 x 40lb (main gun deck) (26.5 British pounds) 30 x 20lb (second gun deck) (13.25 British pounds) 8 x 14lb (quarterdeck) (9 British pounds) 2 x 200lb (shell) (forecastle) (English Pounds??) Broadside: 836lb + 3x 120lb shell and 1x 200lb shell (552.75 British pounds + Shells) (sidenote: I will try investigate the shells and update later, as we don't have shells in the game I don't deem it super important) Late Armament (1761 onwards): 28 x 40lb (26.5 British pounds) 28 x 30lb (20 British pounds) 14 x 14lb (9 British pounds) Broadside: 1078lb (714 British Pounds) 66 Armament: 26 x 40lb (26.5 British pounds) 28 x 30lb (20 British pounds) 12 x 14lb (9 British pounds) Broadside: 1024lb (678.5 British pounds) Measurements: Because of the different build periods and the little tweaks made, there are 3 different measurements to the class, similarly to the way Temeraire had slightly different models made within her class. Piedi is the Venetian foot. First Series: Length of Keel: 124 piedi (43.11m) Length at Longest Point: 140.5 piedi (48.86m) Width at Widest point: 37 piedi (12.85m) Bilge Tip: 28.5 piedi (9.9m) Draft: 18.5 piedi (6.43m) Second Series: Length of Keel: 122 piedi (42.38m) Length at Longest Point: 142.47 piedi (49.5m) Width at Widest point: 37 piedi (12.85) Bilge Tip: 28.5 piedi (9.9m) Draft: 18.5 piedi (6.43m) Third and Fourth Series: Length of Keel: 126 piedi (43.81m) Length at Longest Point: 146.47 piedi (50.93) Width at Widest point: 37 piedi (12.85) Bilge Tip: 28.5 piedi (9.9m) Draft: 18.5 piedi (6.43m) Plans: (In Darker but slightly more bent form for those who might not see the lines above) Sail Plans Artwork As usual, I apologies for any distortion through page bending, I work to the best quality I can with the resources Available. Thank you for reading and getting down this far, I hope you enjoyed the essay and plan, again as usual I am more than happy to go into detail on any particular part if I can. PS. Its your turn SteelSandwich, I'd like to see that dutch corvette post you were thinking of doing

I think it's better to have this one in a separate thread, so here it is. Information about the ship (spanish) http://www.todoababor.es/listado/navio-sanfernando2.htm Plans: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lyp0l22903t80x/scan01662.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7ug4zg8ni6xqxm/scan01663.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nwz7fof6f38eikk/scan01664.pdf?dl=0

Mind the question mark after the name, since I'm trying to deduct if my line of thinking is correct. Recently i stumbled across the following book: When i saw the book i decided to not purchase it yet, since i noticed something. In an online auction of the book, the plans of the ship were shows in small detail: Especially the first one rang several bells in my head, allow me to show you the following: The 2nd and 3rd image shown are marked as depicting the 'Delft'. However, the first is marked the following: ''Met tekst: "A 50 Stukken 1783, Lang 160 Voet, Wijdt 45 Voet, Hol 20.5 Voet." Met schaal: 1 voet = 0.59 cm. Ontwerper van dit schip is Willem Lodewijk van Gendth. Onduidelijk is of dit schip ooit werd gebouwd. Dit schip heeft dezelfde afmetingen als het schip 'Delft' dat ontworpen werd door P. van Zwijndregt Pzn. '' Translated (the relevant parts): ''Designer of this ship is Willem Lodewijk van Gendth. Unclear whether or not this ship was ever build. This ship has identical measurements as the 'Delft', designed by P. van Zwijndregt Pzn.'' So, what i ended up at is that the writer of the book has done additional research into the subject and therefore these plans do belong to the 'Delft'. Is my assumption wrong, or do we have the plans for the Delft already here? Some nice additional pictures since im already working on the topic, and some background information: The Delft is a 54/56-gun ship of the line, build by the Admiraliteit op de Maze. The build started in 1782 with a budget of 210.000 Guilders. She was launched on 16th of May 1783 and finished at Hellevoetsluis in March 1784. What has been marked down of her performance is that she was quite maneuverable and relatively fast. (whether according to dutch standards or international standards, i do not know.) During the Battle at Camperdown the Delft was engaged heavily and sustained a large amount of damage. Over the duration of the battle more than 1 in 3 of the crew was killed and the ship was eventually captured. During the process of towing her to England, the ship flooded and sank. As a sign of respect for the fallen crew and stiff resistance, the captured Dutch third rate 'Hercules' was renamed to 'Delft'. Plans of the Hercules/Delft can be seen here: On the extreme right you can see the Delft forming the end of the line (the Hercules can be seen third from the left): The delft during Camperdown: Stern view: Her armament would consist of 24-12-6, albeit that the link to that has been lost in the process somewhere.

HMS Majestic HMS Majestic was a 74-gun third rate ship of the line launched on 11 December 1785 at Deptford. She fought at the Battle of the Nile, where she engaged the French ships Tonnant and Heureux, helping to force their surrenders. She was captained by George Blagdon Westcott, who was killed in the battle. On 22 February 1799, Majestic was in sight when Espoir, under the command of Captain James Sanders, captured the Spanish 14-gun xebec Africa some three leagues from Marbello on the Spanish coast. Captain Cuthbert, of Majestic, transmitted Sanders's letter, adding his own endorsement extolling "the meritorious Conduct of Captain Sanders and his Ship's Company on the Occasion." Espoir and Majestic shared the prize money for the xebec, whose full name was Nostra Senora de Africa. On 4 April, Majestic and Transfer destroyed a French privateer of unknown name. Head money was paid in 1828, almost 30 years later. Majestic was razeed into a 58-gun fourth-rate frigate in 1813. On 34 February 1814 Majestic encountered the French frigates Terpsichore and Atalante, a 20-gun ship, and an apparently unarmed brig. Majestic was able to catch up with and engage the stern-most of the French vessels. After an engagement lasting two and a half hours, the frigate struck. She turned out to be the Terpsichore, of 44 guns and 320 men, under the command of "capitaine de frigate Breton Francois de Sire". In the action, Terpsichore lost three men killed, six wounded, and two drowned as the prisoners were being transported to Majestic; British casualties were nil. Because of the weather and the approach of night, Majestic was unable to pursue the other three French vessels, which therefore escaped. The Royal Navy named Terpsichore HMS Modeste, but never commissioned her. On 22 May 1814 Majestic recaptured the former British naval schooner Dominica, which the American privateer Decatur had captured the year before. At the time of her recapture, Dominica was sailing under a letter of marque, had a crew of 38 men, and was armed with four 6-pounder guns. Ship plan: Brother ship plans - Orion (1787); Captain (1787) Art:

found a unnamed 74 gun in a book about ships in diffrent time periods sadly the twats didnt include any sources so i have no idea about the nation or name. any ideas?

Dannebroge - 1710 Second Rate 2,200 Ton Length of Gundeck 164' 0" Danish Alen (Feet) 164.0000000000000 Breadth 42' 6" Danish Alen (Feet) 42.5000000000000 Draught Forward 17' 3" Danish Alen (Feet) 17.2500000000000 Draught Aft 20' 6" Danish Alen (Feet) 20.5000000000000 Broadside Weight = 694 Lower Gun Deck 24 Danish 24-Pounder Middle Gun Deck 28 Danish 18-Pounder Upper Gun Deck 28 Danish 8-Pounder Quarterdeck/Forecastle 14 Danish 6-Pounder Crew 680 Service History Date Event Source 1710/10/04 2nd Battle of Koge Bay  Paintings Hope you enjoyed There might be historical inaccuracies.

I asked this question some years ago now and never really got an accurate answer, I'm now wondering if any of the history buffs of these dear forums could expand upon what info I was offered. The Question: What first-rate ship of line sunk, then had it's cannon recovered and melted down? I've been reading about the HMS Victory (1737) found by Odyssey in the English channel, 2009. They found 42lb bronze cannon, the only existing cannon of this type on dry land. Though they mention another ship with similar ordnance that was recovered and melted down as scrap. discovery.com - "The site Odyssey has identified is one of only two first-rates whose ordnance has ever been located underwater. However, almost all of the bronze guns from the other site were melted down as scrap in the late 18th and 19th centuries." I want to know the name of the above mentioned ship and have read-up on several first-rates with similar cannon but none mention the fate of the cannon. Was it the HMS Royal George (1756), HMS Sovereign of the Seas or some other ship.... Can anyone fill me in here? Some updates since I asked the question: Now, I don't claim to know any more than you guys (In fact it's very likely, much less) but the quote states that the guns were melted down in the 18th century. This would rule out the Cambrian (wrecked in 1828) and probably the Queen Charlotte (sank on March 17, 1800) ... It also states the other ship was, like the Victory, a First-rate, ruling out the Colossus (third rate) & Invincible (1747) (third rate). "The wreck is one of only two first-rates whose ordnance has ever been located underwater, the other having been salvaged in the late 18th century. However, unfortunately almost all of the bronze guns from the other ship were melted down as scrap in the late 18th and 19th centuries. " - http://shipwreck.net/hmsvictoryfaqs.php The link to my origonal question some 3 years ago - https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120302104832AAT0p0J If anyone has any additional info I would greatly appreciate it

Well the title says it all.. Why dont we have plans for the téméraire class 74 gunners? After all she was the 74 gunner of the time. No other 3rd rates were ever build in such numbers off one construction plan.. I did a bit of research the days but could not find satisfying plans. nowhere in the webz I was around. armament?: (and remember that a french 36pd is 38.8 british pd) 28 x 36pd 30* 18pd 12 x 8pd + 4 x 36pd Carros (or 4x8pd as well as on the quarterdeck) __ total: 74 guns (as of 1783, launchdate of temeraire) 700 men compliment. I know its not the greatest of all sources but Wikipedial actually has a good page about the Temeraire class ships with good general information. Also threedecks.org has a good list of ships here Lead ship: Téméraire If there is "one" french ship missing. Its this class.

L'Artésien French 3rd Rate 64 guns (1765) Specifications: Length of Gundeck: 154' French Feet (Pied du Roi) 50.0192 meters Length of Keel: 141 'French Feet (Pied du Roi) 45.7968 meters Breadth: 40' 6" French Feet (Pied du Roi) 13.1544 meters Depth in Hold: 20' French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 6.496 meters Burthen: 1,100Ton Guns: Lower Gun Deck: 26x French 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck:28x French 12-Pounder Quarterdeck/Forecastle: 10x French 6-Pounder http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2209 Sources,images and models:http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/8954?vc=ePkH4LF7w6yelGA1iKEBqKYiPoXoE53kUgKAFqBWpkYWpmi1rqElvAqHKycYcwC6ikZc https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art%C3%A9sien Monographie: http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/48-monographie-de-l-artesien-vaisseau-64-canons-1764.html PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5x0hl7uhn90bno/Artesien.pdf?dl=0 Thank you LeBoiteux!

On the subject of possible ships to put in the game, are the 1820 US lineships under consideration? Example is the USS Delaware. Crew compliment: 820 men Armament 30 long 32-pound guns 30 medium 32-pound guns 2 x 32 pound carronades

Source: 3decks: Trekh Sviatitelei (translated as "Three Saints") was a Russian 74 gun two decker built in 1810 at the shipyard in St Petersburg. She had a relatively uneventful career and her only claim to fame, or rather infamy, was when she was sold to the Spanish, who, in desperate need for line ships after the events of the Napoleonic War, reached out to Russia for ships. She, along with her sister ship Neptunus, and three ships of the Selafail class of 74's were sold to Spain in what became known as the "Treaty of Madrid in 1817". According to the article, the Russian ships of the line were in such appalling condition that they had to be dismantled within 5 years of being acquired, though the guns were in good shape and used elsewhere in the Spanish Navy. More on this particular incident can be found within the source article. Refer to 3decks link for dimensions and armament.

Looking for names, specs and history. Koopvaardijfregat 'Javaan' Pluto

I want to start this topic over the 7 Provinciën 1782, 74 guns because it is pretty hard to come by at information but what i have found is not a whole lot so i will start with what i have. I have done some research on the 7 Provinciën 1782 because it is the only ship with this name who can be ingame despite the older ones who are too old (1665 and 1694/5) She is the third ship to bare the name 7 Provinciën on a Dutch warship, the first one is the most famous of 1665 and the second one is from 1694. She is a 74 gun ship, 2nd charter according to Dutch specifications and a third rate to English. What i have found is a model from a Dutch shipmodelbuilder. He has tried to recreated the blueprints for the 7 Provinciën in which he has used the model of the Vrijheid as the basis/reference, the model of the Vrijheid is owned by the Rijksmuseum. Here are a few pics: see attachments The model is being made by Cor Emke and is 1:75 Just to give you an idea what it might looked liked What i have further found is that the ship has been build from 1781 till 1782/3 in the Amsterdam Shipyard and she has been sold for scrap in 1794 in Hoorn. She has sailed for the admiralty of the Noorderkwartier (Admiraliteit van het Noorderkwartier) Further she has a length of 180 Amsterdam foot with a width of 48 foot and depth in hold of 22 foot The basis of following chapter are references who could help us to deduct her specification In regard to her armament: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=933 The Admiraal Tjerk hiddes de Vries was a ship build in the same year as the 7 Provincien. Albeit her being smaller, her armament falls in line with other Dutch ships from that period and time. According to the page her armament is respectively: Lower gun deck 28 x 36 pdr Upper gun deck 28 x 24 pdr Quarterdeck 10x12 pdr Forecastle 8x12 pdr In regard to her crew: In order to asertain what a possible compiment could've been, i have tried to look at similar ships from the same size/period. Vrijheid 74-gun (179', 48'9'', 22') 550 crew http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=852 Staaten Generaal 74-gun (180', 48'6'', 22') 550 crew http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=855 Prins Willem de Eerste 78-gun (180', 48'6'', 22') 550 crew http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=854 Looking at certain dutch smaller dutch ships (64/68-gun; roughly 167-170 Amsterdamse voet in size), they would carry a compliment of 450 crew. However, in british service they would be compliment with 490 crew members. Therefore i would conclude: The ship has probably has a crew between 475-550 crewmembers including officers. Sources http://www.mbvp.nl/modelbouw/schepen/statisch/7_provincien_1782_01.html http://www.bataviawerf.nl/naamgenoten-van-de-7-provincien.html https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeven_Provinci%C3%ABn_(1782) https://www.defensie.nl/organisatie/marine/inhoud/eenheden/schepen/zr-ms-de-zeven-provincien http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=847 http://www.modelbouwtekeningen.nl/nvm-1001016-7-provincien-1782.html http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=852 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7364 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=933 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=940 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2826 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=945 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=855 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=854

Unknown Need help reading the text! Possibly her sailing report: Need help!

'Commerce de Marseille' The Commerce de Marseille was a 118-gun ship of the line of the French Navy, lead ship of the Océan class. She was funded by a don des vaisseaux donation from chamber of commerce of Marseille. Built on state-of-the-art plans by Sané, she was dubbed the "finest ship of the century". Her construction was difficult because of a lack of wood, and soon after her completion, she was disarmed, in March 1791. Commerce de Marseille came under British control during the Siege of Toulon. When the city fell to the French, she evacuated the harbor for Portsmouth. She was briefly used as a store-ship, but on a journey to the Caribbean, in 1795, she was badly damaged in a storm and had to limp back to Portsmouth. She remained there as a hulk until she was broken up in 1856. Waterline view Armament LD: 32 × 36-pounder guns MD: 34 × 24-pounder guns UD: 34 × 12-pounder guns FC: 18 × 8-pounder guns + 6 × 36-pounder carronades Plans

HMS Agamemnon HMS Agamemnon was a 64-gun third-rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy. She saw service in the American Revolutionary, French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars, and fought in many of the major naval battles of those conflicts. She is remembered as being Nelson's favorite ship, and was named after the mythical ancient Greek king Agamemnon, being the first ship of the Royal Navy to bear the name. The future Lord Nelson served as Agamemnon '​s captain from January 1793 for 3 years and 3 months, during which time she saw considerable service in the Mediterranean. After Nelson's departure, she was involved in the infamous 1797 mutinies at Spithead and the Nore, and in 1801 was present at the first Battle of Copenhagen, but ran aground before being able to enter the action. Despite Nelson's fondness for the ship, she was frequently in need of repair and refitting, and would likely have been hulked or scrapped in 1802 had war with France not recommenced. She fought at the Battle of Trafalgar on 21 October 1805, as part of Nelson's weather column, where she forced the surrender of the Spanish four-decker Santísima Trinidad. Agamemnon '​s later career was served in South American waters off Brazil. Her oft worn-out and poor condition contributed to her being wrecked when in June 1809 she grounded on an uncharted shoal in the mouth of the River Plate, whilst seeking shelter with the rest of her squadron from a storm. All hands and most of the ship's stores were saved, but the condition of the ship's timbers made it impossible to free the ship; her captain was cleared of responsibility for the ship's loss thanks to documents detailing her defects. Recently, the wreck of Agamemnon has been located, and several artifacts have been recovered, including one of her cannons. Ship Plans: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=subject-90352;collectionReference=subject-90352;innerSearchTerm=agamemnon More pictures: http://www.prdobson.com/project/hms-agamemnon-1781/13/ http://www.admiraltyshipmodels.co.uk/acatalog/HMS_AGAMEMNON_1781.html

Neptunus, 80-gun, Danish third-rate Construction Copenhagen Launched 1789 EOS 1807 Dimensions Length 189' 7' (imperial) Breadth 49' 11' Armament LD 30x36-pounders UD 30x24-pounders FC & QD 20x12-pounders Any additional information is much appreciated! *I fully missed to boat on this one, posted the wrong image (the wrong Neptunus, the other one is ariving shortly)- Corrected in edit*

'Resolution' HMS Resolution was a 70-gun third-rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy, launched at Harwich Dockyard on 6 December 1667. She was one of only three third rate vessels designed and built by the noted maritime architect Sir Anthony Deane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Resolution_(1667)

HMS Trusty 50 guns British Fourth Rate 1782 Launched at Bristol in 1782. Broken up in 4/1815. Designed by Edward Hunt. As built: As designed: Rest of the plans: Info: Length of Gundeck: 150' 5 ½" Imperial Feet or 45.7327 meters Length of Keel: 124' 0 ¾" Imperial Feet or 37.8143 meters Breadth: 40' 7 ¾" Imperial Feet or 12.2111 meters Depth in Hold: 17' 9 ¾" Imperial Feet or 5.2007 meters Burthen: 1,088 16⁄94Tons BM Guns as of 09/1782: Lower Gun Deck: 22 x British 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck: 22 x British 12-Pounder Quarterdeck: 4 x British 6-Pounder Forecastle: 2 x British 6-Pounder Broadside Weight = 414 Imperial Pound ( 187.749 kg) Crew(1782): 350 Guns after 1783: All the 6pdrs were replaced by 14 x 32 pdr carronades. Eight(8) on the quarterdeck and six(6) on the forecastle. Guns(1793): Lower gun deck replaced by carronades. Crew(1793):343 From Rif Winfield's 50-gun ship(page 61): Sources: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=633 https://www.amazon.com/50-Gun-Ship-Shipshape-Rif-Winfield/dp/1861760256

HMS Roebuck (1774) Plans based on Roebuck class. The Roebuck class ship was a class of twenty 44-gun sailing two-decker warships of the Royal Navy. The class carried two complete decks of guns, a lower battery of 18-pounders and an upper battery of 9-pounders. This battery enabled the vessel to deliver a broadside of 285 pounds. Most were constructed for service during the American Revolutionary War but continued to serve thereafter. By 1793 five were still on the active list. Ten were hospital ships, troopships or storeships. As troopships or storeships they had the guns on their lower deck removed. Many of the vessels in the class survived to take part in the Napoleonic Wars. In all, maritime incidents claimed five ships in the class and war claimed three. H.M.S. Roebuck was the nameship of a class of twenty fifth rates even though she herself was completed before any of the others had been laid down. Roebuck's keel was laid in Chatham dockyard in October 1770 and she was launched on 28 th April 1774. Measured by her builders at 886 tons, she was 140 feet in length with a 38 foot beam, and mounted 44 guns in total comprising 20x­18 pounders, 22x­9 pdrs. and 2­x6 pdrs. Shortly after completion, Roebuck was despatched to North American waters where the American War of Independence was just beginning. First in action under Hyde Parker in the Lower Hudson River, she was one of a three­ship squadron fired upon and badly damaged by the guns of Fort Washington on 9th October 1776. Although tactically defeated, the squadron's very presence in the river caused General Washington great concern and caused him to change his campaign plans in the area. Remaining on station off the eastern sea­board, Roebuck was in Lord Howe's fleet which played cat­and­mouse with the French during August 1788, and she then acted as flag­ship to Vice­Admiral Arbuthnot at the successful capitulation of Charleston, South Carolina, on 11 th May 1780 where she was again badly damaged heading the line past the guns of Fort Moultrie. In her last encounter of the war on 14th April 1781, she captured, whilst in company of H.M.S. Orpheus, the 36 ­gun American frigate Confederacy off the Virginia Capes, the latter loaded with valuable stores for Washington's army. After a brief period as a hospital ship (1790-­91), Roebuck next saw action in the West Indies during Sir John Jervis's operations off Martinique, and her final recorded engagement was the capture of the 12­gun Dutch Bataaf off Barbados on 6th July 1796. Thereafter serving as a troopship (1799), a guardship (1803) and a floating battery (1805), she was eventually broken up at Sheerness in July 1811.