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  1. The NORSKE LOEVE was built in 1765 by the Nyholm shipyard, close to Copenhagen. The ship was named after the Norwegian Lion and the Danish-Norwegian Imperial Coat of Arms. There was a crew of 667 men and an armament of 70 iron cannons, with 26 cannons 24 pd. on the lower deck, 26 cannons 18 pd. on the middle deck and 18 cannons 8 pd. on the upper deck. All ornaments, made by the sculptor C. Moellerup, were reminders of Norway. On the transom there is a fisherman and a farmer, symbolizing the most important trades of Norway, agriculture and fishing. Construc. No. 37 Name: NORSKE LØVE Type: Ship-of-the-Line Naval Architect: Knud N. Benstrup Weight: 1176¼ læsts Armament: 70 cannon – 24 pdr. in the main battery Dimensions: Length – 164′ Beam – 44′ 6″ Draft – 18′ (fore), 20′ (aft) Construction Dates: Keel Laid – May 17, 1734, Launched – February 9, 1735 Crew: Out of Service: 1764
  2. Le Bucentaure Bucentaure was an 80-gun ship of the line of the French Navy, and the lead ship of her class. She was the flagship of Vice-Admiral Latouche Tréville, who died on board on 18 August 1804. The Bucentaure at Trafalgar Vice-Admiral Villeneuve hoisted his flag on 6 November 1804. Bucentaure hosted the Franco-Spanish war council while sheltered from the British fleet at Cadiz. The vote was to remain in safe waters (a decision later overruled by Admiral Villeneuve) During the council, Spanish general Escaño complained that the atmospheric pressure was descending (a sign of approaching storms). French vice-admiral Magon famously retorted "the thing descending here is braveness". This offended Admiral Gravina and other Spanish officers who did not oppose later the imprudent order of taking to sea. At the Battle of Trafalgar, on 21 October 1805, she was commanded by Captain Jean-Jacques Magendie. Admiral Nelson's HMS Victory, leading the weather column of the British fleet, broke the French line just astern of Bucentaure and just ahead of Redoutable. Victory raked her less protected stern and the vessel lost 197 men and 85 were wounded (including Captain Magendie); Admiral Villeneuve was lucky to survive, but this effectively put Bucentaure out of most of the fight. After three hours of fighting, she surrendered to Captain James Atcherly of the Marines from HMS Conqueror. Villeneuve is supposed to have asked to whom he was surrendering. On being told it was Captain Pellew, he replied, 'There is no shame in surrendering to the gallant Sir Edward Pellew.' When he was informed that the Conqueror's captain (Israel Pellew) was Sir Edward's brother, he said, 'England is fortunate to have two such brothers.' In the following days, Bucentaure's crew rose up against the British prize crew, and recaptured the ship. However, she was wrecked in the gale-force storm of 23 October 1805. ----------------------------------------------- Found these online, so you can see how it will look after it is finished: This is not an actual NA game model!! NA WIP:
  3. After extensive research i felt ready to start modelling the Bucentaure class 2nd rate French ship. Since information about this type is very scarse despite being one of the backbones of french navy in the era next to Temeraire and Ocean classes, luckyly enough after reading and googling about every Tonnant and Bucentaure class ship for information i was able to find some referencess including captured tonnant plans, bucentaure lines plans from a french book by Jean Boudriot and excellent Bucentaure class model "Friedland" in the french naval museum with photos from their site and in the books as well, and paintings of the classes from the era i started laying the lines for this magnificent ship. So here is the first screanshot very early in progress. I will post updates as i work through it. Hope youll like it
  4. I know I will start here an unpopular suggestion. Many guys just love the feeling of sitting in fat ducks blowing up everything up in range of their multiple max cannon decks. Nothing wrong with the feel of invincibility and power. But how often and how easy? And at the expense of what other game content? -- Let's face it: the enormous costs of building and maintaining a first rate ship-of-the-line is not portrayed in the game properly. Anyone with a dockyard large enough and sufficient warehouse stock can build one or several SOL a day, especially when he has the support of his clan. We see in the hand of some major clans more First Rates than whole nations had in 18th century, and this is just one theater of operations (the Caribbean), while those nations had to distribute their naval power over several theaters, mainly Europe. So what we get in the game is inflation of First Rates - determining always the same maxed out composition of battle fleets in port battles. And as the SOL are so cheap, we even see ganking groups consisting of SOLs, which is absolutely ridiculous nonsense in naval authenticity. Why? Because SOL are for navy battles only and they were extremely expensive. Their lacking speed did not make them suitable for economy war. The inflation of this overuse of fat ducks has undesirable side effects: other ship ranks become less significant. Almost nobody cares to build 2nd, 3rd rates - not to speak of 4th rate and lower, because fat ducks are so cheap and give the maximum fire power. So versatility suffers from the overuse. Tactics melt down to just brute force and nothing else matters. Who brings in more First Rates will win, who produces more a day keeps the upper hand. Short glimpse back into history: First Rates were so expensive that just for being able to add one to the royal fleet, all merchants and businesses of a city would collect their money and sponsor a single ship, which would then gratefully bear the name of that city, for example "Ville de Paris". Navy reformer Duke de Choiseul went around France to encourage cities and regions to follow the example so the King would have enough ships. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Ville_de_Paris_(1764) If historically correct, a reduction of number of SOLs in Naval Action would altogether prove to be profitable for gameplay. We would see more options for setting up fleets for various purposes and other rates than the First would see a renaissance. How could this be implemented? An idea would be to give each nation a maximum number of First Rates, distributed as slots between all clans of that nation. So, if there would be a max number of 25 First Rates for one nation and six clans with, say, more than ten active members in the last month, each clan would get the Royal allowance to contribute four First Rates and the rest (1) by one of the smaller clans. Maybe this would lead to less port battles or just another composition of battle fleets participating there. A single port battle would gain importance. That's fine, because so often they really did not take place in real life. Another idea, could be parallel with the first idea mentioned, has been touched already in this forum and I am all for it: having to pay maintenance for the largest ships, no matter if they are moored in docks or 'parked' in ship market. So you think twice before building them en masse. First Rates must cost daily money, and Second and Third Rates also, but to a lesser degree. Third idea in that context is to introduce a cost inflicting each time to the owning clan when their First Rate gets sunk. They were highly prestigious symbols of power. A loss of a First Rate ship-of-the-line was felt as national tragedy. Not like in this game, where you shrug your shoulders and simply build another one. This 'prestige loss' could be expressed by deduction of marks, victory or PvP, to all clan members whose clan had that national slot for a First Rate which got sunk. A malus for the clan comparison ladder. Effect: eagerness to keep the First Rate alive at all costs. Smaller ships would be commissioned to protect the valuable First Rate - that's absolutely historic. Second Effect: enemy is even more keen on sinking First Rates, because then it would have consequences for the losing side beyond just another ship gone.
  5. San Felipe 1690 The San Felipe, launched in 1690, was one of the most beautiful Spanish galleons of the XVII century. She was the lead ship of the famous Spanish Armada. The San Felipe displaced more than 1000 tons and was armed with 96 cannons, enabling her to take on the most formidable ships in the French and British navies. In 1705, she participated in a furious and heroic battle between 12 Spanish ships and 35 British ships but ended up at the bottom of the ocean with several tons of gold. Ship Plans: http://www.modelships.de/San_Felipe_1690_authenticity/San_Felipe_1690_authenticity.htm Building a ship: http://sanfelipe1690.blogspot.com/
  6. Recently there has been some arguing in this forum about 1st rates being used a way too much. Thier sheer number has been deemed unrealistic. I agree to that and thus suggest to implement a mechanic that regulates the numbers of 1st rates in NA: 1. Point of reference – how was the relation of 1st rates to other ships that participated in battles in the age of sail? Taking the Battle of Trafalgar as an example wikipedia states the following numbers: Type of ship* Numbers Percentage** 1st rate 7 9,5 % 2nd rate 11 15 % 3rd rate 38 52 % 4th rate 4 5,5 % 5th rate 9 12 % 6th rate 4 5,5 % Altogether 73 100 % *I’m using the ingame rating of NA here: 100+ canons = 1st rate, 80+ canons = 2nd rate, ... ** Values rounded and thus not exact. 2. Suggested mechanic: I’d implement a limit of how many 1st, 2nd and 3rd rates a player could own depending on his / her dockspace. This limit could be tied to the above mentioned percentage of ships in the Battle of Trafalgar for example. This would lead to the following restrictions (numbers not rounded): Dockspace Allowed 1st rates Allowed 2nd rates Allowed 3rd rates 5 0 0 2 8 0 1 4 11 1 1 5 14 1 2 7 17 1 2 8 20 1 3 10 With just one tow per day it would be impossible for all to get 1st rates out to sea wherever they want! And 3rd rates would actually become what they've been - sort of the backbone of the navy. Please comment and suggest other ideas of how to address the problem!
  7. HMS Henry Dunbar was a 64-gun second rate ship of the line of the English Royal Navy, originally built for the navy of the Commonwealth of England at Deptford, and launched in 1656. After the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660, she was renamed HMS Henry. By 1677 her armament had been increased to 82 guns. Henry was accidentally burnt in 1682.
  8. Looking for more info and plans by Francis Sheldon Tre Løver, 1689, 68-74 Guns (24х24pd, 20х12pd12х6pd), Crew 529. ??? http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=18324 Elefant, 1687, 24 Guns (18х6pd, 6х4pd), Crew up to 90. ??? http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=17905 Let's keep going Dannebrog(1850) Unknown 5th rate? Bellona 1830 Rota 1822 gyldenløve 1669 hukkert 1760 12x4pd HVIDE ØRN 1798 30 Guns 24x8lb 6x8lb carronades Crew 180 brig ØRNEN 1842 28 Guns 16x18lb 12x1lb Crew 70 brig SEALARK 1843 12 Guns 4x32lb 8x32lb carronades
  9. Hi everyone, I stumbled on this forum thread by chance and im amazed by all the work & plans everyone is posting here. Im a game design student and we are creating a small gaming environment for the current module. Thats why I am looking for plans for the captains quarter/cabin. Were plans like these ever made or was the cabin derived from the general ship plans? What Im looking for would be cross sections and floorplan of just the captains quarters but so far ive only found build plans for whole ships Thanks in advance!
  10. 'Foudroyant' HMS Foudroyant was an 80-gun third rate of the Royal Navy, one of only two British-built 80-gun ships of the period (the other was HMS Caesar (1793). Foudroyant was built in the dockyard at Plymouth Dock (a.k.a. Devonport) and launched on 31 March 1798. Foudroyant served Nelson as his flagship from 6 June 1799 until the end of June 1801. Foudroyant had a long and successful career, and although she was not involved in any major fleet action, she did provide invaluable service to numerous admirals throughout her 17 years on active service. In her last years she became a training vessel for boys. Plans Design Her designer was Sir John Henslow. She was named after the 80-gun Foudroyant, which Swiftsure and Monmouth, both 70-gun ships, and Hampton Court (64 guns), had captured from the French on 28 February 1758. Foudroyant was a one-off design. She followed French practice of favoring large two-decked, third rates mounting 80 guns rather than the typical British preference for building three-decked second-rate ships mounting 98 guns. The two ship types, despite the difference in absolute gun numbers, had similar gun power but the British thought the second rate had a more imposing appearance and some advantages in battle, while they considered the 80 gun ship as usually faster and less 'leewardly'. Career: 12th October 1798: Fought at the Battle of Tory Island which was commanded by Commodore John Warren, during which the French 74 Hoche (renamed Donegal), and the frigates Bellone (renamed Proserpine), Embuscade and Coquille, were captured. (Capt. Thomas Byard) June 1799: Arrived at Palermo, where Nelson took her as his flagship. (Capt. Thomas Hardy) Nov 1799 - Feb 1800: At the blockade of Malta. (Capt. Edward Berry) Feb 1800: Captured the Généreux (Capt. Edward Berry) March 1800: Captured the Guillaume Tell (Capt. Edward Berry). The Guillaume Tell and Généreux were the only two remaining ships from the Battle of the Nile, and Nelson was delighted to have caught them. 1801: Assisted with the British landing at Egypt under Admiral Lord Keith. (Capt. Philip Beaver) 13th March 1806: With the London and Amazon, captured the French Marengo(74) and La Belle Poule(40). (Capt. John Chambers White) November 1807: Part of the blockade of the Tagus (Capt. Norborne Thompson). 1808: Rear-Admiral William Sidney Smith's flagship in the South American Station. 1812: Returned to England. 1820: Became a guardship at Plymouth. 1861: Became a training ship. 1892: She was sold to be exhibited at seaside resorts, but she became grounded and wrecked at Blackpool. But, aside from Victory, she was the only other of Nelson's ships to survive long enough to be photographed. Nelson's flagship as Rear-Admiral from June 1799 - July 1800 whilst he was in Palermo, although sometimes he just had his flag raised in her whilst he was ashore. It was aboard her that the Neapolitan Admiral was controversially tried and sentenced to death, and it is likely that Nelson and Emma Hamilton's daughter, Horatia, was conceived on board when Nelson took the Hamiltons to Malta in late April or early May 1800.
  11. Unfortunately for us Dutch, the main period on which Naval Action seems to focus comes after our 'Golden Age', but there's still plenty of Dutch stuff in the 18th century. We all know and love the 74 as the ultimate linesoldier of 18th century fleet battles and as such these ships should be well represented in game, several types should be available for all the major factions. The Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam has this large, very detailed model of the 74gun ship "Vrijheid". This ship will fit in the game's timeperiod beautifully and could be an important staple of Dutch fleets. We didn't build any first rates because of the shallow waters around our coasts, generally sticking to third rates and the occasional 2nd as a flagship, but we certainly knew how to slap together a good boat. The Vrijheid did not have a particularly magnificent career. Built in 1782, she fought at Kamperduin in '97 and was captured by the English. She served as a prison hulk for a few years before she was scrapped. But still, it's a solid 15 years of active service and one major battle. That's more than you can say about a great many of other warships. In any case, I think it'd be a wonderful addition to the game. Not just for some Dutch lovin', but 74s are awesome and you can never have enough of them. It's a large, multi-part model. While I don't know if there are any plans of the ship online or even in existence, I can't imagine the friendly people at the Rijksmuseum would be unwilling to cooperate with helping the devs to build a virtual specimen of her.
  12. Hello Naval Action Captains, I am proposing adding in the USS Ohio circa 1820 which from what has been agreed on is the cutoff year for Naval Action with the addition of the Mercury. The USS Ohio has quite a service history for the United States as a SoL (Ship of the Line) and quite honestly is likely the single best SoL the United States ever made. USS Ohio History: Laid Down - 1817 @ New York Naval Yard Launched - May 30th 1820 Spent her early years in "ordinary" "refitted" for service in 1838 when she was needed, and served as the US Flagship to the Mediterranean for 2 years Went back to Boston for "ordinary" in 1840 Recommissioned in 1846 in the US - Mexico war assisting in the Siege of Vera Cruz, her guns were deployed and 336 of her crew were sent on the Tuxpan River Expedition. Shortly after the war with Mexico she was sent to the Pacific to keep order off California during the gold rush. She returned to Boston one last time in 1850, and served as a receiving ship until 1875. She was placed in "ordinary" for the last time in 1883, and was sold off. During her "breaking up" she refused to die, she broke from her mooring during a storm and became stranded. She was subsequently burned to the waterline and portions of her hull remain scattered and buried underneath the mud to this day (the shipwreck site is well documented). Armament as best replicated: 90 guns total 2 x 32lb Cannons Fore No guns Aft (Only windows) 24 x 42lb Carronades (Spar Deck) 32 x 32lb Cannons (Gun Deck) 32 x 42lb Cannons (Lower Deck) Standard Crew Compliment: 840 Men & Officers Why the USS Ohio (1820) aka Ohio II? The USS Ohio is regarded by many US Naval Historians as one of the most beautiful sailing warships ever afloat at the time of her launching. On top of that naval records and journals indicate she was an absolutely superb ship to sail constantly doing better than 12 knots and handling very much like a frigate, this information is extremely well documented. While she was built along side her sister ships she was designed slightly differently and to date is still regarded as the best SoL the United States had ever built, despite not seeing much action, even though she did see action in the Mexican-American war. Her armament is quite impressive to say the least, that is a LOT of 32 and 42lb guns, and for her sailing characteristics this makes her a very very formidable ship despite being on 104 guns when compared to the larger ships like the HMS Victory and the Santisima Trinidad's ridiculous amount of guns. Strong Armor, excellent sailing characteristics, powerful armament, this is what makes a good SoL, and I believe she has a place in Naval Action as there are no US SoL's and not many can either fit the timeline or were just poor performers. Historical Pictures: Artist Rendition of USS Ohio SoL (1820) "2 old salts" on the USS Ohio circa 1870 USS Ohio as a receiving ship in Boston circa 1870 USS Ohio (far right) in Boston photo circa 1870's Original Cedar "Hercules" figurehead from the USS Ohio on display today Stephen Myatts near 100% accurate (painstakingly recreated from historical documentation) model of the SoL USS Ohio (Left Side) Stephen Myatts near 100% accurate (painstakingly recreated from historical documentation) model of the SoL USS Ohio (Fore) Documented Sources: Naval Historical Foundation Nav Source Online (historical photos only) 3 Decks Naval Warfare History Wikipedia USS Ohio 1820 (GENERAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION ONLY) *NOTE: I would like to point out that the original naval register for her initial gun complement has yet to surface on the internet, I have heard that the US Navy does have some historical documents that can be requested at a cost (unsure of the cost) however this information has not been entirely verified. The gun compliment while being based on the 1837 public register does fit with the period that Naval Action is in, there are NO EXPLODING SHELL CANNONS on her as of 1837, these were traditional round shot cannons, the documentation is there to prove it. "NOPE IT'S OUT OF DATE" - Then remove the Mercury, this launched on the same year, month and within 11 DAYS of the launch of the Russian Brig Mercury, your arguement is invalid. "Can't fit 1837 guns on a 1820's ship, it's out of the timeline" - as long as they are the same guns that are limited in Naval Action and are the front loading, and fire only traditional round shot you can, and circa 1837 she was fitted for exactly that, and ONLY that. The only reason she has no earlier documentation is that she was in "ordinary" until she was needed to be sailed. Again argument invalid. Yes she pushes the limits of the timeline, no argument there, however she does meet all the requirements and in my honest opinion she would make an excellent addition to the game.
  13. The "1780" Class ship was a 70/74 gun Venetian Primo Rango (1st Rate) designed in 1780 by the architects Andrea Paresi, Andrea Chiribiri, Andrea Spadon and Iseppo Fonda as part of Angelo Emo's naval reform program started the same year. The ship was drawn up as a replacement for both the previous 70 gun Leon Trionfante class and the smaller 66 gun San Carlo Borromeo class which the two designs had been in service 64 and 39 years respectively. The "1780" was designed with the intention to being faster, more agile and tougher than its predecessors, in line with the contemporary naval thought under the Emo reforms which were focussed on modernising and changing the way the Venetian navy operated to best protect its mercantile interests, and to project Venetian naval power against its main threats from the Barbary States and Ottomans. The new "1780"s were the first major ship planned as part of these reforms, 4 were laid, however none were completed before Venice was occupied by France, then Austria. The 4 ships of the "1780 class" Laharpe, 70 guns, Laid in 1782, Completed by the French in 1797. Unnamed, 74 guns, Laid in 1786, Damaged by the French looting in 1797, Demolished by the Austrians in 1804. Unnamed, 74 guns Laid in 1790, Damaged by the French looting in 1797, Demolished by the Austrians in 1804. Unnamed, 74 guns, Laid in 1790, Damaged by the French looting in 1797, Demolished by the Austrians in 1802. Laharpe was named in honour of Amédée Emmanuel François Laharpe, a French Major General who was accidentally killed by a friendly fire mistake during Napoleon's Italian campaign in 1796 while he was pursuing Austrian forces in the town of Codogno. She was launched alongside the Fama class ship Stengel, as part of the French salvage programme launched in the Venetian Arsenal following their occupation in 1797, the design was modified slightly, taking away the poop deck and her 3 guns, while adding another gun port to the quarterdeck, leaving her as a 70 gun ship, instead of the originally intended 74. Laharpe spent the majority of her early years stationed at the French base in Ancona alongside Stengel, ironically the two classes serving together as they were designed and intended for by Angelo Emo in the 1780s. They were soon joined by Beyrand, another Fama class ship where they were prepared and sent on an expedition to relieve the siege of Corfu against the Russo-Turkish aggressors, however the small navy were forced to turn back after being spotted by the Austrian navy. The Austrian navy gave chase in an attempt to capture the three ships but were no match for the speed of the Venetian designs and Laharpe, Beyrand and Stengel made it safely back to Ancona, where she would stay until 1799. In 1799 Austrian Forces captured Ancona and Laharpe was taken back to Venice to help secure the Austrian occupation, she spent the next 3 years anchored in the Grand Canal, working as a floating outpost for the occupying Austrians, where she served as a powerful reminder and keeper of peace against the Venetian resistance. After her years serving as an outpost she was commanded by Karl Ludwig Johann Josef Lorenz (later Archduke Charles of Austria) to be converted into a prison ship, as the prisons of Venice were in a state of disrepair and prisoners were frequently escaping and so in december 1802 work began to refit Laharpe. After her refit, finishing in the spring of 1803 she was anchored in the San Marco Canal where she stayed until July 1804, where she underwent some maintenance, after which she was left anchored in the part of the Venetian Arsenal known as the "Novissima Grande", the largest basin of the complex until the second French occupation starting in 1806, she stayed in the Arsenal for a further 3 years and was eventually demolished there in 1809. Below is A painting of of Laharpe serving as a prison ship. Measurements: Length of Keel, 139 piedi, (48.33m) Length at Longest Point, 162 piedi, (56.33m) Width at Widest Point, 39 piedi, (13.56m) Armaments (Laharpe 70 Guns): 28 x 24lb (French pounds) 28 x 18lb (French pounds) 14 x 8lb (French pounds) Plans: Originals. Reproduction by Guido Ercole. Thanks For reading, I hope you enjoyed, as always let me know if anyone wants some more information.
  14. U.S.S. Independence I think this ship has been mentioned before a few times but there was never a thread made for her: In 1836 she was razee'd into a 54-gun frigate: Originally I think she was closer to 90 guns, but they had to cut down on her armament some due to her weight and draft proportions *insert fat Murican joke*. I'm still looking for the original 2nd/3rd rate plans, but am having trouble finding them so far in US Library of Congress, US National Archives, or DANFS mil site... Tonnage: 2243 Length: 190 ft 9 in (58.14 m) Beam: 54 ft 7 in (16.64 m) Draft: 21 ft 3 in (6.48 m) Complement: 790 officers and enlisted Armament: 90 × 32-pounder (15 kg) guns (**not sure about this) Excerpt from here at least confirms her dimensions and armaments: http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/line/sotl.htm#inde Independence was the first to launch and the first to make a foreign cruise of any ship-of-the-line of the U.S. Navy. She was one of "four ships to rate not less than 74 guns" authorized by Act of Congress 9 January 1813. Her sister ships were Franklin, Washington, and Columbus. She launched 22 June 1814 in the Boston Navy Yard, immediately took on guns, and was stationed with the frigate USS Constitution to protect the approaches of Boston Harbor. Her design was identical to Franklin and Washington: Length, 190 feet 10 inches; extreme beam, 54 feet 71/2 inches; tonnage, 2,243; draft, 24 feet 4 inches; and a complement of 790 officers and men. Their original armament was 30 long 32-pounders of 0.55 hundredweight; 33 long 32-pounders of 0.50 hundredweiglht; and twenty-four 32-pounder carronades. The lower deck gun ports of Independence came too near the water with all her armament, provisions and complement on board. Some of her heavy guns were exchanged for the lighter 24-pounders of the USS Constitution to help remedy her deep draft. After trials, it was necessary to further increase buoyancy by landing "a considerable weight of carronades, spars, provisions, water, and other articles of equipment." The Navy Commissioners ordered Independence not to sail with a view of converting her to a "razee" to improve her efficiency. Before the order reached Boston, she sailed 3 July 1815 under command of Capt. William M. Crane. She wore the broad pennant of Commodore William Bainbridge commanding the second squadron dispatched to deal with the renewed piratical acts of the Barbary ~States. Her lower deck ports were caulked in to overcome the problem of her deep draft in crossing the Atlantic. Commodore Bainbridge deplored the proposal to razee Independence for "such a process would have spoiled one of the finest two deck ships in the world." "It is true," he wrote the Navy Commissioners, "the ship is built too shallow a depth for her other dimensions, which makes her lee guns in action rather low . . ." But Bainbridge continued: "You may sir, be assured of one fact; that there is not an officer or seaman on board the Independence who would not willingly engage in her (with all her faults) any ship of two deck that floats." He stated that Independence was a ship of superior stability who was able to outsail the fastest frigates of her squadron. Bainbridge proposed to raise her gun decks but would not be a party to altering one line of the design that might affect her superior speed, handling, and stability. Peace with the Barbary States had been enforced by the squadron under Stephen Decatur by the time Independence entered the Mediterranean. But she led an impressive show of American naval might before Barbary ports that encouraged them to keep the peace treaties concluded. Having served adequate notice of rising U.S. seapower and added to the prestige of the Navy and the Nation, she returned to Newport 15 November 1815. Economy measures reduced her status to that of station flagship for Commodore Bainbridge until 29 November 1819. She then was station flagship of Commodore John Shaw until placed in ordinary at Boston in 1822. The controversy continued as to whether Independence was capable of performing "services indispensible [sic] for a 74 at all times." Surveys were held with the warship carrying 5 months provisions, water for 700 men, stores, and her original heavy armament. Some of the scuppers of her lower gun deck ports sank beneath the water. Naval constructor William Doughty reported that "Independence carries her guns too near the water to 'enable her to perform the services indispensible [sic] for a 74 at all times with certainty,'because, in blowing weather, she could not fight her lower lee guns and would therefore be liable to be captured by a ship of inferior force . . .". On the other hand, Oliver H. Perry wrote that "Commodore Chauncey, Captain Creighton and several other officers of rank and reputation, were clearly of opinion that no vessel could surpass the Washington and I see little or no difference between her and Independence." US engineers just have high quality standards IMO
  15. 112-gun first-rate wooden warship of the Royal Navy that served on Lake Ontario during the War of 1812. General characteristics Tons burthen: 2305 bm Length: 191 ft 2 in (58.27 m) (gun deck length) Beam: 52 ft 6 in (16.00 m) Propulsion: Sails Complement: 700 officers and men Armament: 112 guns: Gun deck: 28 × 32 pdrs, 4 × 24 pdrs, 2 × 68 pdr carronades Middle gun deck: 36 × 24 pdrs Upper gun deck: 32 × 32 pdrs, 2 × 68 pdr carronades Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_St_Lawrence_%281814%29
  16. Ingermanland This ship was launched 1715, armed with 64 guns. It was also the first, such a big (about 50 m long) ship built to be flagship of Russian navy. The project of this ship was worked out, as most of the plans of ships built before it, by tsar Peter I. http://www.sailboatmodel.info/ingermanland_1715/index.php?langue=en http://www.shipmodel.ru/ingermanland.htm
  17. Göta Lejon Swedish 3rd Rate 70-76 guns 1746 Göta Lejon was built in Karskrona in 1746.She was rebuilt in 1769-1770 and served until 1816 when she was broken up. Model from Swedish Museum: Dimensions: Lenght of Gundeck: 164' Swedish Aln Breadth: 44' Swedish Aln Depth in Hold: 20' 6'' Swedish Aln Displacement: 2050-2100 ton Card from the museum: Armament(1746): Lower Gun Deck: 28 x Swedish 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 18-Pounder Quarterdeck/Forecastle: 22 x Swedish 6-Pounder Armament(1770): Lower Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 18-Pounder Quarterdeck/Forecastle: 22 x Swedish 6-Pounder From Illustrerad Svensk sjökrigshistoria: delen. Omfattande tiden intill 1680 by Gunnar Unge: https://books.google.gr/books?id=RchAAAAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA305&lpg=RA1-PA305&dq=G%C3%B6ta+Lejon+1746&source=bl&ots=cqUK57WfQh&sig=HCvcixW-EML7fwOSAgOWj15TiQY&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjypcXmza_PAhXGXBQKHRCxBqYQ6AEIYDAM#v=onepage&q=G%C3%B6ta%20Lejon&f=false Sources:http://digitaltmuseum.se/021025898367#&gid=1&pid=11 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10890 http://felipe.mbnet.fi/html/body_gota_lejon_1746.html http://felipe.mbnet.fi/Sweden/Sweden_Ships_1700-1860/sweden_ships_1700-1860.html https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ta_Lejon_(1746) Every help is welcome!
  18. 'Rayo' The Rayo was an 80-gun ship of the line of the Spanish Navy. As was traditional for Spanish ships not named after a saint, its second, dedicatory name was San Pedro Apóstol. It fought at Trafalgar and was dismasted as a result of damage sustained in the battle. When she sortied after Trafalgar in order to recover prizes, the warship was captured by HMS Donegal. Subsequently, she ran aground and was wrecked in a storm. Her broken hull was set ablaze and destroyed by British sailors on 31 October. Characteristics Class and type: 80-gun Rayo-class ship of the line Tons burthen: 1,750 bm Length: 55 m Beam: 15,80 m Draught: 8,68 m Sail plan: Full-rigged ship Complement: 80 guns, 1752: 453 men 100 guns, at Trafalgar: 812 men Armament: As a 80 gun ship (1751) 30 × 24-pounder guns 32 × 18-pounder guns 18 × 8-pounder guns 2 × 3-pounder guns As a 100 gun ship (1803) 1805 - 100 guns Lower Gun Deck - 30x Spanish 36-Pounder Upper Gun Deck - 32x Spanish 18-Pounder Spardeck- 32x Spanish 8-Pounder Roundhouse - 6x Spanish 18-Pound Carronades Plans Bonus. Identify these ships. HD Plans.
  19. It's amazing what a little digging can do on Pinterest. Granted, there wasn't all that much to find within the timeline, but I have found (and shared) some items. That being said, I did find a plan of a Russian first rate that was built for service in the Baltic Fleet. She saw action against the Swedes at both The Battle of Kronstadt and The Battle of Vyborg Bay. 3decks link in the title below. Трёх Иерархов (Three Hierarchs) 1782 Additional images of the model here:
  20. HMS Mars (1794) HMS Mars was a 74-gun third-rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy, launched on 25 October 1794 at Deptford Dockyard. Career In the early part of the French Revolutionary Wars she was assigned to the Channel Fleet. In 1797 under Captain Alexander Hood she was prominent in the Spithead mutiny. In 1798 at the Battle of the Raz de Sein she fought a famous single-ship duel with the French seventy-four Hercule, in the dusk near the Pointe du Raz on the coast of Brittany. Hercule attempted to escape through the Passage du Raz but the tide was running in the wrong direction and she was forced to anchor, giving Captain Hood the chance to attack at close quarters. The two ships were of equal strength, but Hercule was newly commissioned; after more than an hour and a half of bloody fighting at close quarters she struck her flag, having lost over three hundred men. On Mars 31 men were killed and 60 wounded. Among the dead was Captain Hood. Mars fought at Trafalgar where she was heavily damaged as she took fire from five different French and Spanish seventy-fours. Among the 29 killed and 69 wounded in the action was her captain, George Duff. In 1806, on service in the Channel fleet she took part in an action off Chasseron which led to the capture of four French ships. She afterwards served off Portugal and in the Baltic Sea. Fate Mars was placed in ordinary from 1813. She was broken up in 1823.
  21. HMS Cumberland HMS Cumberland was a 74-gun third rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy, launched on 29 March 1774 at Deptford Dockyard. She participated in the Battle of Cape St Vincent in 1780. Circa February 1781, she captured the French 18-gun privateer ship-sloop Duc de Chartres. The Royal Navy took the privateer into service as HMS Duc de Chartres. Building HMS Cumberland http://forum.modelsworld.ru/topic10318.html Source: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3338-hms-cumberland-by-alexberanov-1774-136/page-11
  22. HMS Nelson was a 126-gun first rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy, launched on 4 July 1814 at Woolwich Dockyard, but then laid up incomplete at Portsmouth until 1854, when work began with a view to commissioning her for service in the Crimean War, but this ended before much work had been done, and the ship returned to reserve. She was converted into a screw ship in 1860, being cut down to a two-decker and fitted with an engine of 2,102 indicated horsepower (1,567 kW) for a speed of 10.5 knots (19.4 km/h; 12.1 mph). In 1865, Nelson was given to the colony of Victoria as a training ship, and she was finally outfitted and rigged for £42,000 and sailed for Australia in October 1867. Travelling via the Cape of Good Hope, she arrived in February 1868. She was the first ship to dock in the newly constructed Alfred Graving Dock. Her armament in 1874 was listed as two 7-in RML, twenty 64-lb guns, twenty 32-lb guns and six 12-lb howitzers. During 1879-82, Nelson was further cut down to a single deck and her rig reduced to the main mast only, the ship being reclassified as a frigate. Her old armament was partly replaced by modern breech-loaders. She was laid up at Willamstown in 1891, her boilers being removed in 1893. On 28 April 1898 she was put up for auction and sold to Bernard Einerson of Sydney for £2,400. In 1900. Nelson was cut down yet again to create a coal lighter that kept the name Nelson, the upper timbers being used to build a drogher named Oceanic. In 1908 "Nelson" was sold to the Union Steamship Co. of New Zealand, and in July was towed from Sydney to Beauty Point on the Tamar River, Tasmania, for use as a coal storage hulk. She later foundered there with 1,400 tons of coal on board and remained submerged for forty days until finally refloated. In January 1915 she was towed to Hobart for further service as a coal hulk, until sold in August 1920 to Mr. H Gray for £500 and towed an up river to Shag Bay for gradual breaking up, work continuing into the 1930s, although some of her timbers still survive. Guns from HMS Nelson in gardens at Ballarat. The ship's figurehead was preserved by the NSW Naval Brigade, then the Royal Australian Navy, before it was presented to the Australian National Maritime Museum for display. Armament: 126 guns: Gundeck: 32 × 32 pdrs Middle gundeck: 34 × 24 pdrs Upper gundeck: 34 × 18 pdrs Quarterdeck: 6 × 12 pdrs, 10 × 32 pdr carronades Forecastle: 2 × 32 pdr carronades
  23. With the lack of Dutch ships in the game, I decided to attempt one myself that could potentially be useful. Don't expect wonders (in terms of speed and pretty renders) coming from me, it's all hobby work, but I'll try my best at it I'm working off of this scan of the ships Leeuwenhorst (named after an area in the former province of Holland, now Zuid Holland) and Edam (named after a small fishing village). There's little I could find about these ships, so this drawing is all I can work from. I chose to make this ship, because for one the size (4th rate) and secondly the typical Dutch stern that was apparently common design pre-Batavian Republic (when France conquered the Dutch republic in 1795). Similar designs can be found on the 3rd rate Stadt En Lande, and the frigate Eendracht, for example. Here's a first concept:
  24. HMS Cornwallis was a Royal Navy 54-gun fourth rate. Jemsatjee Bomanjee built the Marquis Cornwallis of teak for the East India Company. In March 1805 Admiral Sir Edward Pellew purchased her from the Company shortly after she returned from an expedition against the Mahe Islands. In February 1811 the Admiralty renamed her HMS Akbar. In December 1801, she sailed, together with the Upton Castle (an Indiaman), the Betsey, an armed HEIC brig, some other vessels, and 1000 troops to Daman and Diu to persuade the Portuguese governor to resist any French incursion. The expedition was under the command of Captain John Mackellar, of the Royal Navy, whose own vessel, Terpsichore, was not ready for sea. The governor accepted the British reinforcements, which, as it turned out, were not needed. On 8 May 1804, Marquis Cornwallis sailed from Portsmouth under the command of Captain Isaac G. Richardson. She sailed via Saint Helena to Bombay, where the company intended for her to remain. She was convoying the Marquis of Ely, the Marchioness of Exeter, the Lord Nelson, the Bruswick, the Princess Charlotte, the Marquis of Wellesley, and the Ann. In 1805 Admiral Pellew purchased her for £68,630. She was commissioned under Commander Charles James Johnson. She then served off Bombay and engaged in the long-distance blockade of Isle de France (now Mauritius). On 11 November 1806, Sceptre and Cornwallis sailed into Saint Paul's Bay, on Île Bonaparte, in an attempt to cut out vessels there, which consisted of the French frigate Sémillante, three other armed ships and twelve captured British ships. (The eight ships that were prizes to Sémillante had a collective value of ₤1.5 million.) They fired on the French and took fire in return. However, when the slight breeze failed, Sceptre and Cornwallis found themselves unable to manoeuvre. They therefore left without having accomplished anything, but apparently also without having suffered damage or losses. In February 1807, Cornwallis was ordered to Australia. She reached Port Jackson by sailing through the Bass Strait, which made her the first Royal Navy ship to traverse the strait. After visiting Port Jackson, Cornwallis sailed to New Zealand and subsequently crossed the Pacific Ocean to the Juan Fernández Islands in the vain hope of finding enemy shipping. Off Valparaiso, an accidental explosion caused serious damage and a number of casualties aboard the frigate, but she was still able to raid Spanish settlements in the region, capturing a number of sheep and pigs and a few small vessels on the Peruvian coast. In September, Cornwallis raided Spanish settlements and shipping near Panama and subsequently visited Acapulco and Hawaii before returning to Madras. In 1808, command passed to Captain Fleetwood Pellew. In this year, Cornwallis, in company with Sceptre, engaged and damaged Sémillante, together with the shore batteries whose protection she had sought. In 1809 Captain William Augustus Montagu took command. Montagu was engaged in a number of operations off the Dutch East Indies, attacking forts on Celebes and Amboyna. In February 1810, the British attacked Amboyna. In the campaign, Cornwallis captured the ship Mandarine, of 16 guns and 66 men, Captain Besman, on 3 February after a chase of four hours. Madarine had been out for four weeks but had captured nothing. Cornwallis suffered only one man wounded in the action. Mandarine then served as a tender to Cornwallis. On the 1st of March Cornwallis chased a Dutch man-of-war brig all day until she took refuge in a small bay on the north side of the island of Amblaw. The wind being light and variable, and night approaching, Montagu sent in Cornwallis's boats, under the command of Lieutenant Henry John Peachy. After rowing all night, they captured the Dutch brig Margaritta Louisa, under Captain De Ruyter on 2 March. Margaritta Louisa was pierced for 14 guns but carried only eight, and a crew of 40 men.[7] Margaritta Louisa had left Surabaya nine days earlier with 20 to 30,000 dollars for Ambonya, and supplies for Ternate. In the boarding, the British had one man seriously wounded and for men lightly wounded; the Dutch lost one man killed and 20 wounded. As the wind was light and variable, and night approaching, Captain Montagu sent the yawl, cutter, and jolly-boat, under the command of Lieutenant Henry John Peachey, assisted by Mr. John Garland the master, and master's mate William Sanderson, to endeavour to bring the vessel out. After a fatiguing pull during the whole night, the boats found themselves, at daylight, close to the vessel : which was the Dutch national brig Margaretta, mounting eight, but pierced for 14 guns, with a crew of 40 men. In the face of a heavy fire of grape and musketry, and of a brave defence by pikes and swords, Lieutenant Peachey and his party boarded and carried the brig, and that with so comparatively slight a loss as one man dangerously, and four slightly wounded. The Dutch had one officer killed and 20 seamen wounded. On 28 March Cornwallis and Dover shared in Samarang's capture of the Dutch brig Recruiter. In late 1810, Cornwallis was deployed with Albemarle Bertie's squadron that forced the surrender of Isle de France. William Fisher took command after Cornwallis' Captain Montagu was selected from among the captains assembled for the invasion and reassigned to lead a naval brigade in support of the British Army forces' ground offensive. Over the next four years Cornwallis remained in the Indian Ocean under various commanders. On 29 June 1811 Salsette captured the slaver Expedition off Mauritius. The prize crew took the ship and the slaves on her to the Portuguese colony of Goa because selling slaves was illegal in British India, but not Goa. Salsette shared the prize money with the crews of Drake and Cornwallis. Between 4 August and 19 September 1811, Akbar participated in the capture of Java. In 1847 the Admiralty awarded the Naval General Service Medal with clasp "Java" to all surviving claimants from the campaign. In the spring of 1813, Captain Archibald Dickson was appointed to command Akbar.[ On 15 May 1814, Akbar captured the Indian Lass. In 1814 Cornwallis traveled to Britain for the first time.
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