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I have a slight connection with this ship.When i was in the Royal Navy based at RNH Haslar(i was the modern equivilant of a Loblolly Boy)she was anchored just off Gosport and was used as a Training Ship for Boys.She is now renamed as HMS Trincomalee and is at Hartlepool Historic Dockyard. Class & type: Leda-class frigate Tons burthen: 1065.63 bm Length: 150 ft 4.5 in (45.834 m) (gundeck) 125 ft 7.25 in (38.2842 m) (keel) Beam: 39 ft 11.25 in (12.1730 m) Depth of hold: 12 ft 9 in (3.89 m) Sail plan: Full-rigged ship Complement: 315 officers and men Armament: 38-guns: (classed as 46 as carronades were counted in armament from 1817) Gundeck: 28 × 18 pdrs Quarterdeck: 14 × 32-pdr carronades Forecastle: 2 x 9 pdrs plus 2 × 32-pdr carronades

Having the HMS Surprise, I find it excellent if we had an Acheron.

Really excited of this ship. Special Thanks to "Joegrag" for ship plans. Too big to upload see comments.

Hey here is some technical drawings for this french 52 gun 4th rate i found, did a search and it is not on this forum so here it is. I thought the constitution and trincomalee could use more buddies.

HMS Indefatigable was one of the Ardent class 64-gun third-rate ships-of-the-line designed by Sir Thomas Slade in 1761 for the Royal Navy. Though built as a ship-of-the-line, most of her active service took place after her conversion to a 44-gun heavy frigate. She had a long career under several distinguished commanders, serving throughout the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars. She took, alone or in company, some 27 prizes and in 1847 the Admiralty authorised the issue of four clasps to the Naval General Service Medal to any still surviving members of her crews from the respective actions. She was broken up in 1816. I will post images when more research is done. The rest is a Post by ChainsawEcosse. Hi All, just pulling this over from the poll. Some more on HMS Indefatigable as I love this ship, not the best but a great story. It was my entry in Bismarck's Youtube competition where I'm humbled to say it got an honourable mention. The quiz result is here; And hopefully you can download the pdf from here; https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing Cheers, Alan

I think this would be a great end game 4th rate /frigate. It had a long service time and put out a huge broadside. I Can't find much in the ways of plans or images. What do you think?

Was it the HMS Rose replica? Re-named Surprise? Or the HMS Surprise, originally the Unité? I'm pretty shure its the Unité, and I'd love to se the HMS Rose in the game! They are very similar, but most of the diference is on the upper deck!

HMS President The H.M.S. President was one of many light frigates constructed in England during the years 1730 till 1760. These ships were constructed upon consideration of the economic limits which were due to the numerous wars of the period. The ship was 34 meters long and it still had some influences of the galleons, but the back of the ship was not high and this made it easier for the ship to sail rapidly even with goods aboard. The H.M.S. President was used mainly for the commerce between England and America. Plans:

HMS Ajax The HMS Ajax was a British Frigate, built in 1765 and refitted in 1805 to serve in Admiral Horatio Nelson's fleet. Ajax was 135 feet long and had a crew of 250. She carried 18 24-pounders and 9 12-pounders. Plans:

Frigate "D. Fernando II e Glória" This ship has an awkward story, it was ordered in 1821 but because of financial reasons it was only built in 1843 in the Royal Portuguese Arsenal in Daman, Portuguese India. Was in service from 1845 until 1940, year that she "half sunk" from an onboard fire. In 1990 was restored from its old wreck and turned into a museum. She didn't saw any battles unfortunatly, most of its orders where to transport troops to the colonies. Armament: Gun deck - 28 guns (18 pounder, long gun) Deck - 20 guns (32 pounder, carronade) Forecastle - 2 guns (12 pounder, bow chasers) Dimensions: Lenght 87 m Beam 13 m Draught 6.4 m Displacement 1849 tons Between 154 to 379 men (270 passengers) Plans: More pics: http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/05/0d/9e/41/fragata-dom-fernando.jpg http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/23991995.jpg http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/7/4/8/154847.jpg http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/8/4/8/154848.jpg https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3070/2408371627_f07e6ffa71.jpg More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_Fernando_II_e_Gl%C3%B3ria

New ship will be added to the game in the near future (ETA 1 month) It is a light frigate equipped with 28 cannons. 26 on the broadsides and 2 chasers. This is a first ship that will close the gap between snow and brig and heavy corvette. Most likely rattlesnake will be a runner up so it will provide additional coverage of the gap. Here is how she looks (more will come once they upload) Lets discuss the performance, speed turnings and it's potential role

HMS Amazon Building Amazon thread: http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?285256-18th-Century-Frigate

Note* there is a misspell error in the title - HMS Iris HMS Iris/Hancock Completed in 1777 and named after John Hancock, the president of the Congress of the United Colonies, she made her first voyage in May 1777, Captain Manley in command, in company with the frigate USS Boston and several privateers. A severe storm quickly scattered the fleet, and the privateers went their own ways while USS Hancock and Boston sailed to the fishing grounds off the coast of Newfoundland. In June 1777, Hancock was sighted by the British frigate HMS Fox. After a short engagement in which Boston soon joined, Fox surrendered. She was still in company with Boston in July when they encountered three British warships. Manley mistakenly identified one of the ships as a ship of the line and surrendered to what seemed to be overwhelming force. Hancock was taken and renamed HMS Iris after having served the Continental Navy for only 61 days. There have been statements that neither Hancock nor Confederacy had distinguished careers in the American Navy. Iris, however, made a great many British officers and seamen rich with prize money. She was known during the Revolutionary War period as the fastest frigate in the world. She was captured by the French in the West Indies, where she served after the American Revolution and ended her life as an ammunition store-ship in Toulon, France. History The Continental frigates archived little. Randolph blew up fighting a 64-gun ship-of-the-line in 1778. Every other Continental frigate, except Alliance, was captured by the Royal navy. American concepts, however, were copied by European navies. The Hancock, taken into the Royal navy as HMS Isis, was described as «the finest and fastest frigate of her age» by a British captain. It was later captured by the French navy, which also admired the design. The Warren prompted the biggest change in frigates. In 1776, a standard frigate carried a main battery of 12lb cannon, with light frigates mounting a 9lb battery. Alarmed by the heavy 18lb guns carried by the Warren, as well as French experiments with frigates intended to carry an 18lb main battery, the Royal Navy up-sized its standard frigate. It began building frigates capable of carrying 18lb long guns on the gun deck. Starting with the Minerva class in 1778, the Royal Navy began building 38-gun frigates. These carried 28 18lb cannon on the gun deck, and ten 6lb cannon on the quarterdeck and forecastle. Smaller than the Continental 36-gun frigates, these ships were 141ft long on the gun deck. The new design became the standard Royal Navy frigate for the next 30 years. The design was so successful that by 1783 the British stopped designing frigates intended to carry a lighter main battery. The French navy also started moving towards larger frigates during and after the American Revolution. Following the axiom that God favors the heavier artillery, the French began building frigates that were larger than their British counterparts, and which could carry more and heavier guns. They produced frigates capable of carrying 18lb guns immediately prior to their entry into the war on the American side. Until then, the standard French frigate carried 36 guns, with a 12lb main battery. American experience Prior American Experience and Foreign Trends By 1794, the United States had significant experience producing frigates — its colonial shipbuilding industry had built warships since the 17th century. Most warships built in American yards for the Royal Navy during the colonial era were small warships: schooners, brigs, and sloops-of-war. Colonial shipyards were capable of building larger ships, however: yards in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, built the Falkland, a two-Decker fourth-rate, in 1690 and a 44-gun two-Decker America in 1749. During the American Revolution, the Continental Congress authorized construction of 20 frigates. American shipyards completed 11, but of the remainder four were destroyed before completion, and one, the 28-gun Bourbon, was still under construction at the war’s end. Four others never progressed passed the design stage. Nevertheless, these first American frigates proved influential in subsequent frigate design, both in the United States and around the world. The most important were three Continental 32-gun frigates — the Randolph, Warren, and Hancock — and the 36-gun Alliance. The first three were authorized in 1776, and the Alliance in 1779. Randolph was designed by Joshua Humphreys, and was built in Philadelphia. It was built to the «official» plan for the first five 32-gun frigates authorized by the Continental Congress. Hancock, built in Newbury Port, Massachusetts, and Warren, built in Providence, Rhode Island, were designed locally due to delays in the official plans arriving. All these vessels shared characteristics, despite design differences. They were larger than contemporary European frigates: a typical 32-gun Royal avy frigate was 125ft long, whereas the smallest Continental 32-gun frigate was 132ft long. All three 32-gun ships carried heavy batteries. The Randolph and Hancock carried 26 12lb cannon on the main deck, while the Warren had a mixed battery of 18lb and 12lb guns on the main deck. The Alliance, designed and built by William and James Hackett of Salisbury, Massachusetts, was larger still. It was 151ft long, with a beam of 36ft. It was larger than the 38-gun frigates that the British began building in 1778, although it only carried a 12lb battery. It was also the fastest ship in the Continental navy. Note* there is a misspell error in the title - HMS Iris

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lively-class_frigate Hi Guys, Some more ideas re Frigates and once again need to find plans but this one sounds like a captains dream, found it when looking into the Leda class frigate that was added recently. The more Frigates the better i'm hoping we rarely see first or second rates on the ocean with their cost etc and look forward to Frigate hunting packs facing off all day every day.

I would love to be able to sail this gallant old frigate. The United States was one of the original six American forty-four gun heavy frigates and she normally carried 50 guns and had quite a combat record. She captured two French privateers, Sans Pareil and Jalouse, sunk the L'Amour de la Patrie; freed the English ship Cicero from the French privateer Democrat (who escaped to shallow waters); took the French privateer La Tartueffe and its prize, the American ship Vermont; captured the Le Bonaparte; she captured several merchants including the Mandarin; under the command of Captain Stephen Decatur, she famously engaged and battered the 38 gun HMS Macedonian inflicting 112 casualties and taking 12, forcing it to surrender; discovered an uncharted island off Peru, raced and beat a French sloop Quotes on the United States "USS United States was a wooden-hulled, three-masted heavy frigate of the United States Navy and the first of the six original frigates authorized for construction by the Naval Act of 1794. Joshua Humphreys designed the frigates to be the young Navy's capital ships, and so United States and her sisters were larger and more heavily armed and built than standard frigates of the period." "United States '​s nominal rating was that of a 44-gun ship. However, she usually carried over 50 guns.[20] United States was originally armed with a battery of 55 guns: thirty-two 24-pounder (10.9 kg) cannon; twenty-two 42-pounder (19 kg) carronades; and one 18-pounder (8 kg) long gun." "The design incorporated a diagonal scantling (rib) scheme to limit hogging while giving the ships extremely heavy planking. This gave the hull greater strength than those of more lightly built frigates. Humphreys developed his design after realizing that the fledgling United States could not match the navy sizes of the European states. He therefore designed his frigates to be able to overpower other frigates, but with the speed to escape from a ship of the line"

HMS Ambuscade (British 5th rate, 32 Guns) Ship designed by Sir John Williams; built Adams & Co. Deptford, river Thames; launched 17 September 1773; 32 guns 5th Rate; taken by the Bayonnaise 14 December 1798; broken up 1813

Dutch 5th Rate frigate 32-guns Hard to find info about this one. Maybe others find more info? Feel free to add in replies! Source: http://www.maritiemdigitaal.nl/index.cfm?event=search.getdetail&id=100099267 Image: http://mmr.adlibhosting.com/madigopacx/wwwopac.ashx?command=getcontent&server=Maritime&value=T%2FT2336.jpg Source: http://www.maritiemdigitaal.nl/index.cfm?event=search.getdetail&id=100099225 Image: http://mmr.adlibhosting.com/madigopacx/wwwopac.ashx?command=getcontent&server=Maritime&value=T%2FT2297.jpg

HMS Diana The eighteenth century equivalent of the cruiser, the frigate was used for a wide variety of roles from fleet reconnaissance to patrolling sea lanes. Built in 1793 Diana was a typical British frigate of the period whose long and active career spanned virtually all of the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. In 1815 she was sold to the Dutch navy, which she continued to serve until destroyed by an accidental fire in 1839. Plans are in this book: https://www.google.com/shopping/product/946098880756842013?q=frigate+diana&es_sm=122&biw=1600&bih=799&dpr=1&prds=paur:ClkAsKraX0gjEBgU_qUQ16UKjT7QJX-kc2OZHtuiDOlNN1bs6qN6L0l2kpbAdoSs4sEDyn0WyvpQgSFe6K_Ys2Ae8OWzgGVLP7OX-AQjTNigyC1nyK4TzkBIJxIZAFPVH70sSzaLHbI0YcNMmY-rOHvbJVj4_Q&ei=dP2vVK_5AonesASEt4GABQ&ved=0CIcBEKYrMAI

La scialuppa di salvataggio portarle usato raramente e di solito mettere le barche in mezzo alla nave sopra le aste, e poi sono antiestetici, e quindi sarebbe meglio rimuovere perché rovinano la linea del Surprise. [Attachment = 1119: HMS-Surprise-stern.jpg] [Attachment = 1120: HMS-surprise.jpg]

http://www.navalhistory.dk/images/Skibene/IJ/Jylland1862/Jylland%281860%29-1139-1970-n.jpg http://www.galleri-draupner.dk/images/arkiv/Image/FJ%20i%20roligt%20farvand.jpg http://www.fregatten.dk/ Its an old danish ship wich have been made into a museum, would love to see this in the game. I bet if you guys call them you can get some good info and drawings on the ship.

http://www.modelships.de/Unicorn_II/Photos-Frigate-Unicorn_II.htm

Ahoy people, new guy here, and I bring cannons and explosions. Last month, people working for the Danish Fregatten Jylland museum ship decided to test out one of the old cannons, since It's almost never been done in modern times, and there's little historical evidence detailing the accuracy of the old ship cannons. Fregatten Jylland (The Frigate Jylland) Is one of the world's largest wooden warships, and is both a screw-propelled steam frigate and a sailship. She fought in the Second Schleswig War in 1864, where during the Battle of Heligoland, she sustained a direct hit from an Austrian screw Frigate. The hit killed 4 sailors aboard the Jylland and maimed 5 others. The people working at the ship now decided to recreate this hit, by taking off one of the original cannons, and re-constructing a piece of the hull, like the one that was hit. Then they took them to an Army testing ground, and fired off 3 shots to test the impact, and accuracy of the 150 year old Swedish built cannons. Here's what followed; Be warned, It's all in Danish and 'splosions. But here's the highlights: 0:42 - slow motion 1:17 - close up 1:47 - slow motion 2:22 - damages 2:52 - slow motion 3:12 - live shot followed by close up The shots were fired at a range of 90 meters, believed to be a realistic distance similar to the line of battle in 1864. They used 13 Kg cannon balls, fired with 4 Kg of gun powder. The cannons themselves weigh about 2.5 tons. I figured fellow history buffs, as well as the deveopers might enjoy seeing the effects of a cannonball shot, and of course the delightful explosions. And the ship itself Is pretty beautiful as well.